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 Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 9:13 am Post subject: Faking it? |
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Did you ever get that sneaking suspicion that some metalheads are "faking it"?
Sure, they have bought all the right things. They have the posters on the walls, the tshirts, the CDs and rare vinyl and maybe even some classic demos.
But they're faking it and you can tell because they don't understand metal as being different from rock music, indie, emo, punk -- you name it!
They've picked metal as an identity, because they need some cause in order to claim their lives have meaning, but they don't seem to understand it at all.
It's like they're spectators at an art gallery who say "I like the red one; red's my favorite color!" or tourists visiting a battlefield when they can't remember who the two sides were. It's like they're not actually engaged with life itself much at all, but want to dress up like metalheads so we think they are.
Faking it
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Yep, the one reason I don't look forward to metalfests.
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| Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 9:18 am Post subject: |
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Putting this as nicely as possible: if I wanted to read ANUS, I'd be on that site instead of this one. I don't think we need this many cross-posts.
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I think the term is.... a poser? 
Many people get into Metal these days just because some of the mainstream stuff like Cannibal Corpse, and Behemoth is trendy now. Many of them probably don't actully like Metal.
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I like the idea of Cannibal Corpse as mainstream stuff. I mean the gross-out factor has a certain broad appeal because teenage boys love guts and dead babies... but mainstream? Hmm.
Coming soon to a theater near you: "Tomb of the Mutilated, the Musical!" Starring Miley Cyrus as Sexy Corpse, Zac Efron as the zombie, and Tom Hanks as the stern but lovable teacher who unites them through their mutual love of singing, dancing, and devouring intestines. Serious Oscar buzz is already building for Miley and Phil Collins' melodious take on "I Cum Blood."
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| Posers exist in every sub-culture. I even think the Hip Hop- and Hardcore/Screamo-culture (I'm not talking about those MTV-metalcore-dipshits) are far worse infected by this problem. |
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10000 % agreed!!!! There are zillions of examples around...and the picture in the link is just a bloody prime example I'm afraid (actually I'm not, but...!! 
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posers must exist... it's lame, but that's called balance.
if there are zero posers, what would real metal bands wrote and sing about? |
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nzùmbe
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| Cheo wrote: | posers must exist... it's lame, but that's called balance.
if there are zero posers, what would real metal bands wrote and sing about? |
Well, the things they were focussing on in the first place I guess.
/edit: Although, when I think about it in a larger context - you may even be right.  |
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VATRA I SUMPOR
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| yes, i didn't explained it well, but you get my point |
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the real question would be, why do posers, not realize they are posers?
many exist here too I'll bet!  |
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| for me, there is people who love music and there is people who don't really (or just at first degree) basically. lot of people come into a scene (metal or whatever) just to be a part of a community. i hate that concept actually, i though metal was against that kind of thing. |
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Opolus
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| NAGAWIKA wrote: | | for me, there is people who love music and there is people who don't really (or just at first degree) basically. lot of people come into a scene (metal or whatever) just to be a part of a community. i hate that concept actually, i though metal was against that kind of thing. |
Very accurate point, although I would've hoped, that you'd make that particular point clear via a new comic!! 
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| Opolus wrote: | | NAGAWIKA wrote: | | for me, there is people who love music and there is people who don't really (or just at first degree) basically. lot of people come into a scene (metal or whatever) just to be a part of a community. i hate that concept actually, i though metal was against that kind of thing. |
Very accurate point, although I would've hoped, that you'd make that particular point clear via a new comic!! |
unfortunately, days only have 24 hours... |
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The use of the term poser and the whole faking it commentary is often misused I think, too eagerly applied in many cases as well because the 'troo' and 'kvlt' are so eager to prove their trooness and kvltness by quickly labeling anyone and everyone around them as poser or a faker.
Just cause someone never heard Beherit until maybe the new album came out, and then became a fan and then bought a bunch of old shirts is not exactly a poser, maybe a little over eager and a little corny but they may very well be 100% devoted and passionate. They are just late on the boat. Not a poser by any means.
Personally I think the only time 'poser' can be labeled to anyone is probably when this comment comes out : "I grew up and grew out of that stuff, cut my hair you know cause I've grown up bla bla bla bla etc etc"
That to me is about the only poser out there. Until that I assume everyone is into what they are actually listening to, unless of course you bump into them at a local mall and they are all dressed like a hip hop guy, crooked trucker hat, large white baseball NY jersey etc etc and baggy jeans hanging low... when at shows they stand and grimace arms crossed like the kvlt... that too raises my eyebrow.  However I do expect mature and older people to have more than one interest, sometimes the crossovers just shock me though.
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