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.aske
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| Sunnportal wrote: | | Dennis is rad. Simple. |
Cool. Form a partnership with him, assume a portion of his debt, and pay me back for not providing the merchandise he agreed to sell.
...if you think he's rad. Simple. |
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Sunnportal
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| Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:31 am Post subject: |
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| .aske wrote: | | Sunnportal wrote: | | Dennis is rad. Simple. |
Cool. Form a partnership with him, assume a portion of his debt, and pay me back for not providing the merchandise he agreed to sell.
...if you think he's rad. Simple. |
Assume a portion of his debt just to help you buy a single record?
I've bought from Dennis only a few times. He was fast and had great communication. Satan's Boundaries Unchained is a modern classic. I'm sure things will work out in the end.
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fireblackfire
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| Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 11:45 am Post subject: |
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This was fun: KNEEL BEFORE THE MASTER'S THRONE Records (says FOAD to the people that have no clue about anything, care for your own business, fukken sissys. my finger straight to your face)...)
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DTBRex
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| Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 11:49 am Post subject: |
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60 EUR? 
Is selling test pressings that "good of a business", actually? More often than not, I just send them to the band or give them to labels I do trades with... I mean, come on! It's just a vinyl without label sticker. 
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.aske
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| Up for this fucking scumbag |
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Werewolf
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| Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:51 am Post subject: |
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11 months minus a week now. Now I'm really sure that the test presses he sold through ebay weren't of a piclp reissue, but of the original press.
Such a period would be more than enough (especially for an experienced label, that has already printed dozens of releases!) to get a print run of 500 records + a bunch of patches made.
I hope that he will be find himself compelled to fund medical treatment for that money and that it won't be enough...
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.aske
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| Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:18 am Post subject: |
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Question for German citizens - here in the US, we have the Better Business Bureau, which we can use to report poor business practices.
Is there an equivalent in Germany? I found this link:
http://en.vzbv.de/
I'd like to (along with a few others I know) place a complaint against Dennis Freiberger of Kneel Before the Master's Throne for theft/ non-delivery of paid merchandise. Even if we don't get our money back, he'll be under scrutiny of German officials. I'm not sure if any earnings are directly reported to the German tax authority, but he'll be under greater scrutiny.
Thanks for any help you can provide. |
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GoldenBull
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| Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:57 am Post subject: |
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| Well BBBs generally have no legal authority in the US. At least the ones I've had experience with just serve as databases of complaints. People who are suspicious of a business can call places like these and check up on them. But I don't see people calling government agencies to check on metal distros. If BBBs have a similar counterpart in Germany they probably don't really do anything. But that link you posted does suggest the possibility of legal action. So who knows... |
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.aske
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| Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:01 am Post subject: |
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^ This is just one of the many options.
Local authorities would probably like to know if one of their citizens is ripping off people around the world, as well. |
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DTD
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| Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:39 am Post subject: |
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A bit off topic:
I've got plenty of copies available of "Satan's Boundaries Unchained" CD for 7 EUR + shipping. Shipping without case = 1.70 EUR / Europe, 3.90 EUR / rest of the world.
http://dtd.erraticsporadicism.org/ |
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DTBRex
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From what I can tell, he's not running a business anylonger. His account at Ebay is a private one too: | Quote: | | Angemeldet als privater Verkäufer. |
So there would be no merchants' association, or anyone else of that sort, concerned with complaints about his conduct at selling but not delivering...
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Stalinorgel
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| Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:44 am Post subject: |
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| His reputation is gone anyway and it won't bring your money back, so not really necessary I would say so. |
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hellfrost
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| Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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Mastersthrone.com / Dennis Freiberger RIP OFF a lot of true collectors!
BEWARE OF MASTERSTHRONE.COM DENNIS FREIBERGER! ULTIMATEEVIL13 ( EBAY ) !!
NO ANSWERS SINCE 1 YEAR AND NO MONEY BACK SINCE 1 YEAR BUT STOLEN A LOT OF MONEY SINCE 1 YEAR!! |
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