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UNCONSECRATED SEARCH LABEL FOR SPLIT EP
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Profaned_Exhumating_Flesh



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Albin wrote:
Bands should not ask for labels . Wait to be asked to release something . if you're good you'll get what you deserve . If you're bad you'll get what you deserve , too .

Yes, you are on the right this days have a lot of new bands, and all labels dont know existence of tons bands
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Je t'avais prévenu hein Johannes, c'est un grand comique ... Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Detest Records wrote:
Je t'avais prévenu hein Johannes, c'est un grand comique ... Wink

Jerry,in english please Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't pressing CD's relatively cheap (since NWN can sell them at $5 ?) ...all that one needs the most is actually the contacts to distribute the product more than anything ?

Most bands must have most of their own recording equipment these days or know a good friend that does making that studio cost pretty cheap.

Finding a artist or semi-able photoshop guy to design a layout is cheap, alot of willing people here asking nothing but a copy of the album (and yet get screwed on that so many times over it's almost a laugh)

The pressing of a CD can be about the only cost, and how expensive can that be really ? 4 or 5 dudes in a band should be able to spend a few thousand on 1000 copies of CD. Myspace is like the largest fucking label ever to sell anything over.
Shit people buy CD-R's for godsake from established lables like it's no problem, pro printed covers and all. Razz

A little foot work (or finger work behind a computer) and one could be their own label really with little investment.

Or am I completely delusional on this one ?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mister Unconsecrated wants black wax ...
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope, you are completely right. A 1000 CD pressing with a simple two panel book should cost no more than $1100, and that is pushing it.

Even if you want to splurge for a nicer, 8-12 page booklet, you are still looking at less than $2500.

And you can go even cheaper if you do Duplicated CDRs - http://sirepress.com is your best bet for that. You can do a full color, silver backed CDR and no one knows the fucking difference.

If you then look into printing the covers/inserts/traycards locally or at a cheap online printer, you can do this relatively inexpensively.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Read the title as: "UNCONCENTRATED SEARCH LABEL FOR SPLIT EP" Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Detest Records wrote:
Mister Unconsecrated wants black wax ...


... and to be cult . Jerry you're cult !!!!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pressing wax must be becoming cheaper and cheaper as well as the interest grows and returns to this format so much lately. There must be room for competition in the industry now, or beginning to be some as the format grows in popularity as it seems to be.

Even if a band can only press 500 copies for $2000, the same principle stands as the CD commentary I made about being ones own label and distributor with a little heavy foot/finger computer work as you push your own product via every online outlet you can.


Fuck, I spent a few hours making myspace contacts and sold 10 images within three days after months of inactivity just cause I chose to do some work for myself. Joining forums and always posting shit and keeping it up top to be seen.
Can be no different for bands.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The main problem if a band press like 1000 CDs or whatever, is that many distros etc prefer to trade and no buy.
It's hard to sell 1000 CDs one by one...
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

snaps666 wrote:
The main problem if a band press like 1000 CDs or whatever, is that many distros etc prefer to trade and no buy.
It's hard to sell 1000 CDs one by one...


If the product is good it will sell.
Of course there are also 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 bands all trying to do the same. So I suppose thats the price of being artistic, is it about the $$$ or about just sharaing your creativity with the world ?

If it's about the $$$. Good luck then on that road.
If it's about the creativity and just sharing the vision and art, well then expect to spend your own money and gain little in return.
After all it's about the art isn't it ?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But isn't it better to have a label release your 1000 CDs and get them spread all over the world in distros, than to press 1000 CDs yourself and spend the next 2 years selling half of them?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

snaps666 wrote:
But isn't it better to have a label release your 1000 CDs and get them spread all over the world in distros, than to press 1000 CDs yourself and spend the next 2 years selling half of them?


Getting the label to do all the work may be better for some, it all depends really. Do labels really move product more, especially when they are dealing with 1000 products ? How good or important is your band amongst the many ?

It's always easier to get someone else to do the footwork. Thats how the world has grown really.
However like I said, is one trying to make a living off it or just trying to share their art with everyone else ?
Depending on which path one honestly stands on should help determine their choices.


Side note : The remaining cd's in your own closet or the labels, does it matter really ? All over the world means nothing today. Myspace is all over the world and so is person to person file sharing. Having copies available in some obscure labels vault means little today.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Albin wrote:
Bands should not ask for labels . Wait to be asked to release something . if you're good you'll get what you deserve . If you're bad you'll get what you deserve , too .


Agreed. Also it's better to send out the recording or demo to labels if you want them to release you instead of just asking to be released. Labels will come to bands if they feel worth releasing, though most UG labels already have releases planned and aren't looking for any other projects at the moment.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Demoniarch wrote:
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Getting the label to do all the work may be better for some, it all depends really. Do labels really move product more, especially when they are dealing with 1000 products ? How good or important is your band amongst the many ?

It's always easier to get someone else to do the footwork. Thats how the world has grown really.
However like I said, is one trying to make a living off it or just trying to share their art with everyone else ?
Depending on which path one honestly stands on should help determine their choices.


Side note : The remaining cd's in your own closet or the labels, does it matter really ? All over the world means nothing today. Myspace is all over the world and so is person to person file sharing. Having copies available in some obscure labels vault means little today.


The main reason for making a relases must be got get it out to as many people as possible (within the limitation of the release of course!), to make sure that lots of people get the opportunity to buy it.

If you get a label to relase it, it will be more widely spread than if you make it yourself and sell it on you website or whatever.

Regarding your sidenote - if nothing matters then why make a relase anyway? Why record music? Why breathe?
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