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best black metal recordings ever produced on a 4-track?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 4:30 pm    Post subject: best black metal recordings ever produced on a 4-track? Reply with quote

what are some of your favorite recordings that were produced on a 4-track? i cannot get enough of lo-fi sounding recordings. recommend some stuff, doesn't matter if it's a full length or demo. doesn't necessarily have to be a 4-track either, just as long as it is obvious it was not produced in a professional studio or with protools or similar gayness. not interested in studio shit that was manipulated to sound 'necro' either.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only ones I can recall were for sure on 4-track that I really enjoy are Satanic Warmaster full-lengths, and Transilvanian Hunger.

I'm pretty sure Judas Iscariot was recorded often on 4 track as well, if so they qualify as well!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How would you know if something was authentically recorded on a 4-track?.. I mean besides the obvious of it saying "recorded on a 4-track"....
There's probably a ton of stuff out there that sounds like it could have been recorded on a 4-track, but probably was just recorded on a boom box, an incompetent "producer", or made to sound harsh and low-fi on purpose.

Someone should start an authentic 4-track recorded demo/album list. I think the first Cadaver demos were on a 4-track.

ps ONLY TWO TRACKS IS REAL
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pro tools rules
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Abyssic Hate demo was recorded on a 4 track. One of the best Darkthrone worship releases ever!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A little off track, but I think that Pro Tools and other digital recording programs get a very bad rap. The actual programs themselves aren't what provides the clean sound, it's when they're abused to line every beat up perfectly and polish the soul of the music that they're no good. I've created plenty of raw sounding recordings with both Pro Tools and Cubase in the past.

As for four track recordings, I'm pretty sure that most 90s and pre-90s demos were recorded on 4 tracks. For sure I know of the following; Macrodex, Paradise Lost did their demos with 4 tracks. Of course, Ulver's "Nattens Madrigal" was done on a 4 track.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Emperor - Wrath of the tyrant, Manes - 1-3 demos
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blood and Thunder wrote:
The Abyssic Hate demo was recorded on a 4 track. One of the best Darkthrone worship releases ever!


You sure mate? I remember Routy poos telling me they were recording it at stable sound in Richmond which was 24 tracks from what I recall. Scott Harper engineered it... Trivial, but nonetheless let's hail our inside knowledge haha.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mailweaver wrote:
Emperor - Wrath of the tyrant

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Devoured Death wrote:
A little off track, but I think that Pro Tools and other digital recording programs get a very bad rap. The actual programs themselves aren't what provides the clean sound, it's when they're abused to line every beat up perfectly and polish the soul of the music that they're no good. I've created plenty of raw sounding recordings with both Pro Tools and Cubase in the past.


To stay off track, I agree with you. Pro-tools is like photoshop, it all depends upon how you use it. After all, it's just a program and doesn't do the thinking for you. Pro tools (+ cubase etc) become shit when engineers fill in every drum hit with a totally dry, sampled drum sound and compress the hell out of it so there are no dynamics, every hit time perfect etc. All shitty nu-metal albums and most modern death metal releases are victims of this kind of behaviour. Everything being as upfront as possible, everything sounding robotically tight... It's called quantizing and compressing.

The "Satans Cross" album was done with pro-tools. We just didn't fuck with the sounds too much to keep everything "real sounding", and I read someone on this forum say it has an "analogue" sound Laughing.

As for my 4 track contribution - Zemial "Necrolatry" demo/MLP was done on a 4 track.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nocturnal Graves wrote:
Blood and Thunder wrote:
The Abyssic Hate demo was recorded on a 4 track. One of the best Darkthrone worship releases ever!


You sure mate? I remember Routy poos telling me they were recording it at stable sound in Richmond which was 24 tracks from what I recall. Scott Harper engineered it... Trivial, but nonetheless let's hail our inside knowledge haha.


Ha, actually you're totally right. OK, I made it all up! Nah, I completely forgot about that... so blinded by Shane's 4 track worship...
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Devoured Death wrote:
Of course, Ulver's "Nattens Madrigal" was done on a 4 track.


I read somewhere that that was a myth perpetrated by the band, and it was actually recorded in quite a decent studio; the sound on the recording is very raw, but it's also very very clear so I could believe that.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reaper's Grave wrote:
The only ones I can recall were for sure on 4-track that I really enjoy are Satanic Warmaster full-lengths, and Transilvanian Hunger.

I'm pretty sure Judas Iscariot was recorded often on 4 track as well, if so they qualify as well!


Did anyone ever consider the fact that you can hear the tape machine clicking off - like someone hitting the stop button... this is on Transilvanian Hunger... second track I think. Tape machines don't usually record the noise of the stop machine..
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