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Mikael



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:49 pm    Post subject: Abigor - Verwüstung / Invoke the Dark Age CD Reply with quote

Anyone knows about the difference between b/w and coloured artwork. I can see what MA tells about it, but what's easier to find these days?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the coloured version is easier to find - it seems to pop up more often from my experience. As far as I know the only difference is on the colours, the rest should be the same.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The B&W version must have had a very limited pressing because I ordered this album the moment I saw ads for it back when Napalm was just starting and I got the colored copy (the colored copy was shown in the ad too). Maybe the B&W was just a testpress? Never seen a B&W version of this album ever, nor on eBay.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

back then I orderd it from Nuclear Blast and I received the b/w pressing. I don't know but has the coloured pressing also this backcover-statement "gottes thron ist unser. wendet euch ab von jesus christ - dem verlierer. Heil satan" with the pic of euronymous?
btw: this statement has been covered by a black sticker. don't know if Nuclear blast did this stupid thing or whosoever?

maybe you ask the abigor guys personally, by email or whatever?

nevertheless: does anyone know the limitaton of the b/w press?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had the BW press back in the day when it came out and if I remember right, it was the first press limited to 1000.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

krakentorso wrote:
back then I orderd it from Nuclear Blast and I received the b/w pressing. I don't know but has the coloured pressing also this backcover-statement "gottes thron ist unser. wendet euch ab von jesus christ - dem verlierer. Heil satan" with the pic of euronymous?
btw: this statement has been covered by a black sticker. don't know if Nuclear blast did this stupid thing or whosoever?

maybe you ask the abigor guys personally, by email or whatever?

nevertheless: does anyone know the limitaton of the b/w press?


Sure it reads “Jesus Christ” and not “Jesus Christus” in German? I have no idea since I have no interest in Abigor and their music, but nevertheless, I may ask.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the b/w has a sticker about this one, the coloured not. But i
have seen this B/W last year fist time and the coloured
thousand times...
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Distinguish to Kill wrote:
krakentorso wrote:
back then I orderd it from Nuclear Blast and I received the b/w pressing. I don't know but has the coloured pressing also this backcover-statement "gottes thron ist unser. wendet euch ab von jesus christ - dem verlierer. Heil satan" with the pic of euronymous?
btw: this statement has been covered by a black sticker. don't know if Nuclear blast did this stupid thing or whosoever?

maybe you ask the abigor guys personally, by email or whatever?

nevertheless: does anyone know the limitaton of the b/w press?


Sure it reads “Jesus Christ” and not “Jesus Christus” in German? I have no idea since I have no interest in Abigor and their music, but nevertheless, I may ask.


yes sure. in some german religious folk songs there is also something like "Jesu Christ ist uns geboren" (J.C. is born) ... it is a common thing especially in traditional southern german dialects. and well, austria - abigor's home - is almost southern germany, or better, it was, hehe!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

krakentorso wrote:
back then I orderd it from Nuclear Blast and I received the b/w pressing. I don't know but has the coloured pressing also this backcover-statement "gottes thron ist unser. wendet euch ab von jesus christ - dem verlierer. Heil satan" with the pic of euronymous?


That's on the coloured version as well, mine's not covered with a sticker.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Voidhanger"][quote="krakentorso"]back then I orderd it from Nuclear Blast and I received the b/w pressing. I don't know but has the coloured pressing also this backcover-statement "gottes thron ist unser. wendet euch ab von jesus christ - dem verlierer. Heil satan" with the pic of euronymous? [/quote]

That's on the coloured version as well, mine's not covered with a sticker.[/quote]

Could you post a picture?

I do own the coloured version since 1995 or 1996 but I don't have that statement on the back cover and would be interested in seeing it.

On a related note (from an interview in voice from the dark side):

QUESTION: There's two versions of "Verwüstung..." – one has a black and white cover and the other a color cover... Could you tell us more about that and the reasons for it?
ANSWER:The black / white version was limited to 5000 copies, limited because we thought it looks good, but the press factory fucked it up, so it all looks very faded and grey, so we decided to do a colour version too, that’s the story behind it."

www.voicesfromthedarkside.de/interviews/abigor.htm
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Over the years I've seen random B&W and colour pressings without the black sticker; having had three in the past, only one of those three had a sticker.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

krakentorso wrote:
btw: this statement has been covered by a black sticker. don't know if Nuclear blast did this stupid thing or whosoever


Highly possible. During this time, the NB boss was completely anti-Black Metal and banned all the stuff from his mailorder. One of the Austrian bands (I think it was even Abigor) mailed him a death-threat for whatever reason too.

There was also a Black Metal guy working at NB, who put a silly handwritten note in an order from someone who bought all Mortification CDs at once and got fired instantly after a complaint from the customer.

Well, some years later, the catalogue was full of BM stuff again, because it sold big time.

Weird times...
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the letter was from austrian black metal syndicate, if i remember right,
abigor weren't involted there in this time. I think it was from
trifixion or pervertum or werwolf/lethal guy

there was not even a half year than had nuclear blast hold their boykott.
i think one or two mailorder catalogs further there were a extra
black metal page with all kind of ns and satanic bm Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mz412 wrote:

there was not even a half year than had nuclear blast hold their boykott.
i think one or two mailorder catalogs further there were a extra
black metal page with all kind of ns and satanic bm Laughing


don't know when they started to boycott some BM, but I remember them selling great debut vinyl from beherit, burzum, emperor, acheron etc. without any prob.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

they also distributed the commercial stuff from lethal records,
like graveland, trifixion, pervertum and such. Also candlelight
stuff like havohej or osmose stuff in generell. They only
boykott burzum some years long after all.

But some time, they really boycott BM for fascistic and
criminal Satanic stuff, but don't hold long. The call from
the money was louder than the believe in a good god Laughing
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