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History of Vampyric strain (sub-genre?) of Black Metal
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mithrandir



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vampires have always had a place in Metal, Slayer, Mercyful Fate, etc all had vampire songs....

that said, as far as the general 90s vampire/goth trend that seeped its way into BM, look no further than the literary influence of Anne Rice...
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

El Feroce wrote:
Bestial Walrus wrote:
Cradle of Filth


Of course and mainly them.

Yes, and certainly not mainly without an i.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

amon-goethe wrote:
If you want to know, you must buy the $300 UVSS record at vacation vinyl and post evidence on Instagram to be allowed into the vampire SoundCloud coven.


Haha haha so true
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea, I saw Cradle Filth back in the day along with Dark Funeral as having influences. Its just weird that this thing developed without a set group. Its become a transnational trend recently.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:39 am    Post subject: Re: History of Vampyric strain (sub-genre?) of Black Metal Reply with quote

Heretic Death Call wrote:
pbass0 wrote:

Recs and relevant bands:
Sanguine Relic
The True Werewolf
Beketh Nexehmu
Saatkrahe
Obskuritatem
Wampiric Spectre
Vampiric Slaughter Sect


Laughing wut? I don't think BN has anything to do with vampires...


My b. I must have mixed them up somehow

Mutilation is another great example. Along with Vlad Tepes
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pbass0 wrote:
Heretic Death Call wrote:
pbass0 wrote:

Recs and relevant bands:
Sanguine Relic
The True Werewolf
Beketh Nexehmu
Saatkrahe
Obskuritatem
Wampiric Spectre
Vampiric Slaughter Sect


Laughing wut? I don't think BN has anything to do with vampires...


My b. I must have mixed them up somehow

Mutilation is another great example. Along with Vlad Tepes


Mutiilation*
WampYric*
VampYric*
Jesus, if you can spell "Beketh Nexehmu" - get the others right!

pbass0 wrote:
Yea, I saw Cradle Filth back in the day along with Dark Funeral as having influences. Its just weird that this thing developed without a set group. Its become a transnational trend recently.


It was BLACK Funeral the person mentioned prior with CoF, not DARK funeral. This is rough. Reminds me of when I was younger and someone said "how great is Satyricons album "Stormblast".

Wanting to know where the "trend" started seems a little odd, especially due to your absolute abundant lack of knowledge on the bands categorized as such - and your misspelling of literally half the bands you mention is bizarre in itself.
Are you trying to write some kind of article for one of those shite sites?
Will this be like the "Black metal is eco-feminism" article written by some college kid wet around the ears with zero Black Metal knowledge a few years back?

Vampyric themes/lyrics have always been a part of Black Metal.
This didn't come out of nowhere, it's people like yourself who come out of nowhere, from the outside, not knowing fuck all, then saying "well since I wasn't here, and don't know these bands, this must of all just developed out of nowhere without a set group".
Yes it's getting more attention as of late and in doing so some bands pop up riding that wave (and I don't think disingenuously, it just happens - although there are definitely those who aren't doing things for the right reasons), just like a few years back it was the bestial black/death trend, which was an adverse reaction to the DSBM trend and so on.
These waves of "sub sects" of Black Metal, that get hyper focused at times, come and go, all the time. It is nothing new, and not "out of the blue".
The Vampyric wave will pass, and there will be those that remain and those that drop off - as with the black/death wave, as with the DSBM wave, as with the orthodox/religious wave, as with the raw wave, as with the symphonic wave, it happens, and when it happens you always see who stands the test of time, and more often than not the waves pop up due to the prior wave oversaturating everything, so the next wave seems fresh and interesting and usually the opposite of what the previous wave was.
It happens with everything in life. Waves & cycles.

I don't expect people to have an encyclopedic knowledge of such things, but this topic is the equivalent of me saying "hey guys, i'm writing a school paper on how Carach Angren was the first Black Metal band and first band in history to wear corpse paint, now all these other bands are wearing corpse paint, what a cray time we live in #lit #DabOnTheH8ers".
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is Vril Society a wave or cycle? Can I catch one of these waves
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would put Drowning the light in that category to some extent.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fantomasragnarok wrote:
I would put Drowning the light in that category too to some extent.


One of the best doing this style.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nåstrond (Digerdöden ep and Toteslaut) and Black Funeral were/are the two most important bands in this story I think.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Early Grand Belial's Key and Ancient Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Down There.... wrote:
Nåstrond (Digerdöden ep and Toteslaut) and Black Funeral were/are the two most important bands in this story I think.


I agree, especially in regards to vampyric bands that were taken more seriously.
Add Crimson Moon to that list.
I also know Michael Fords writing from back in the day on the subject (and still today) has been influential on many in the scene in regards to vampyrism & astral vampyrism etc.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

da666 wrote:
Down There.... wrote:
Nåstrond (Digerdöden ep and Toteslaut) and Black Funeral were/are the two most important bands in this story I think.


I agree, especially in regards to vampyric bands that were taken more seriously.
Add Crimson Moon to that list.
I also know Michael Fords writing from back in the day on the subject (and still today) has been influential on many in the scene in regards to vampyrism & astral vampyrism etc.


True. The Black Order of the Dragon and Sinister Order of Fenrir were important for these more serious occultists back then and both Karl NE and Michael Ford were very close in cooperation. I seem to remember Capricornus was also involved with SOF.

The 70s version of Nosfertu was very influential on Nåstronds early releases but especially Toteslaut.

Then came all the faggotry with Cod, Abyssos, Ancient etc
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a dogshit genre name.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:21 pm    Post subject: Re: History of Vampyric strain (sub-genre?) of Black Metal Reply with quote

Heretic Death Call wrote:
pbass0 wrote:

Recs and relevant bands:
Sanguine Relic
The True Werewolf
Beketh Nexehmu
Saatkrahe
Obskuritatem
Wampiric Spectre
Vampiric Slaughter Sect


Laughing wut? I don't think BN has anything to do with vampires...


First thing I thought of.
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