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brown growth



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 12:48 pm    Post subject: Album reviews Reply with quote

Does anyone else here write them? I have always been a big fan of them and have a lot of respect for reviewers who really know how to elaborate and write well. One person I really like a lot is J. Erebus, especially his writing for the Mystifier box set and the Fallen Angel of Doom reissue. He's an excellent writer.

I have written a handful of my own (not including the ones on my blog), and here are some of the more recent ones.

Cadaver - Hallucinating Anxiety
http://metal-archives.com/review.php?id=8327#62912

Cultes Des Ghoules - Haxan
http://metal-archives.com/review.php?id=8327#62912

Mortuary Drape - Into the Drape/Mourn Path
http://metal-archives.com/review.php?id=173740#62912

Mystifier - Tormenting the Holy Trinity
http://metal-archives.com/review.php?id=20543#62912

Poison (Ger) - Into the Abyss
http://metal-archives.com/review.php?id=25460#62912

Post yours if you have some and want them read.
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Dodens Grav



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I (and Sammi Curr, along with one other guy) run a blog called Morbid Knocking, obviously taken from the Miasma song, which contains almost entirely reviews. I've only begun reviewing albums earlier this year so I don't have too many, but it's something that I've wanted to do for a while now. So far I've only reviewed newer releases, but eventually I'll get to older stuff. If anyone wants to read some of my reviews, you can find them in the link in my signature. My reviews are obviously the ones under my name. So far I've posted reviews of:

Revelation - Release
Wastelander - Wardrive
Ironsword - Overlords of Chaos
Faustcoven - Rising from Below the Earth
Mgła - Groza
Hooded Menace - Fulfill the Curse
Against Nature - Accumulus
Ogre - Plague of the Planet
Dead Congregation - Graves of the Archangels
Portrait - Portrait
Valkyrie - Man of Two Visions

I have a few other reviews that are already written (some of which are even posted elsewhere, like metal archives), but all of the reviews that are posted anywhere other than the blog are unpolished first drafts, the reviews here are more 'final,' and often expanded, especially the Mgła and Valkyrie reviews.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be honest, most reviews/reviewers waste my time. I couldn't be assed to read them, most of the time it's just a long version of either "I like the album" (and lots of fanboy talk) or "I don't like that album" (and lots of bullshit).

So a review is basically a reflection of the reviewers opinion (not necessarily mine). That's why I always make up my own mind.
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Down there...



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nexxxion wrote:
To be honest, most reviews/reviewers waste my time. I couldn't be assed to read them, most of the time it's just a long version of either "I like the album" (and lots of fanboy talk) or "I don't like that album" (and lots of bullshit).

So a review is basically a reflection of the reviewers opinion (not necessarily mine). That's why I always make up my own mind.


some are fun. the reviews in Isten were always amusing, even Nordic Vision managed to pull off some good ones.
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Dodens Grav



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's not the way a good critic approaches a work at all. Obviously at some level all critique comes down to "I like it" or "I don't like it," but a good critique is not nearly that simple and is hardly bullshit. It's more like "I like it and here's why." A review is not necessarily of the purpose of helping people decide whether or not they would like an album, but really to examine an album and see what it's about, what values it possesses, what makes it good or bad, etc. A good review is an exploration. My basic idea in approaching a review is that if I can help you see something in a work that you may not have caught on to or even see something in a different way than you originally thought, then I was successful. Of course reviews are subjective, because human beings are subjective, but a good review strives to be objective and actually says something more than just a gut response. It also does not ask you to agree. If that's your perception of reviews, then I understand why you think reviews are worthless, as I don't find much in reviews such as that either. In fact, that seems to be the majority of reviews you'll find. But there are a few people whose reviews I enjoy reading, people who actually put thought and care into what they say and why they say it.

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Karan



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do quite some reviews in voicesfromthedarside.de and have been doing so since 20 years or so, in fanzines (like Horrible and Mutilador in the late 80's early 90's) and used to do some in webzines like Metalgospel and Xtreemmusic.
To do a good review it is a hard task. You might like a band a lot but must be quite fair while doing the review. A good review will make you feel as almost listening to the music. If it is good, why, and if it is bad, why. And usually comparing one band to another might be a good point. Yes, I like to review, and sometimes I just take quite a few days to do a review the way I want. I will be doing the review of the 3 CD compilation for the Swedish book of metal (by D.E. if I am not wrong) and it has taken me many days to spit my soul out while doing it in a fair and right way. My advise is to follow a reviewer you identify with and demand reviews to be more than just a general overview. I also hate too long reviews (like f.e. for a 7" e.p.) so it must have a right measure. Some reviews at MA are just way too weird, fan-boy or hate-boy and loose the sense of telling to others what the music is like. Nowadays with myspace and stuff like that many reviewers are too damn lazy to try to describe a band just using words. That's why you find some really good reviews in old fanzines, no matter that their grammar was not the best. I just remember reading one review of the Immolation demo, and a few moths later receiving a tape with many bands. Just for that review I sorted out on of those bands was Immolation, and it proved right. That is the kind of review I want to create and read.
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WarDog



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do. I have been writing them for awhile now for my print zine and new Webzine. All of them can be found there at the link below, along with some interview, the "20 Questions" interviews, articals/rants, and the forums:

http://doomsdayzine.110mb.com/

I was planning on putting them up on Metal-Archives but mine are pretty short, and to the point. I know alot of people don't even like to read reviews so I don't go into much detail about every song, or chord progression, I try to make it concise.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've written many reviews here:
http://www.vorfeed.net

I agree with Karan and Dodens Grav -- whether or not I liked the record isn't the point. When I read or write a review, I'm most interested in what the music is like; I've bought records based on "bad" reviews before, simply because I knew I'd like it from the description, and I've heard the same from people who've read my reviews.
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WarDog



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vorfeed wrote:
I've written many reviews here:
http://www.vorfeed.net

I agree with Karan and Dodens Grav -- whether or not I liked the record isn't the point. When I read or write a review, I'm most interested in what the music is like; I've bought records based on "bad" reviews before, simply because I knew I'd like it from the description, and I've heard the same from people who've read my reviews.


Same. Funny you say that, I actually bought all the Morrigan releases after reading your reviews, even though you didn't seem to like "Welcome To Samhain" it was in the first batch I bought. (I was also trying to get everything on Barbarian Wrath since it is one of the best labels out there, imo.)
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Wilhelm



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Album reviews Reply with quote

brown growth wrote:
Does anyone else here write them? I have always been a big fan of them and have a lot of respect for reviewers who really know how to elaborate and write well. One person I really like a lot is J. Erebus, especially his writing for the Mystifier box set and the Fallen Angel of Doom reissue. He's an excellent writer.

I have written a handful of my own (not including the ones on my blog), and here are some of the more recent ones.

Cadaver - Hallucinating Anxiety
http://metal-archives.com/review.php?id=8327#62912

Cultes Des Ghoules - Haxan
http://metal-archives.com/review.php?id=8327#62912

Mortuary Drape - Into the Drape/Mourn Path
http://metal-archives.com/review.php?id=173740#62912

Mystifier - Tormenting the Holy Trinity
http://metal-archives.com/review.php?id=20543#62912

Poison (Ger) - Into the Abyss
http://metal-archives.com/review.php?id=25460#62912

Post yours if you have some and want them read.


Album reviews make me cringe. I can't be bothered writing an essay about why I like something or why I think something's poseurish or whatever. Likewise, I get bored reading reviews unless they're really funny (I.E. like how Bill Zebub pulls them off under the guise of several outrageous identities. Now that's great.)

Interviews on the other hand.... That's what I like doing.
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Nekrokunt_Usurper



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Normally bands I want to check out either look interesting from forum feedback, have a reputation anyway or I read a review in a 'zine that makes me curious.

I can't be arsed going through thousands of reviews on the net. Razz
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have written about 1000 reviews in the recent years and it annoys me only nowadays.

I worked for my HELLPIKE zine of course + Voices from the Darkside, Ablaze, Desecration of Virgin and few others which do not come to mind right now.

I only will write a few in the future for HELLPIKE only + will (most probably) contribute to a big Germany Metal Magazine soon (no name will be mentioned yet), but no reviews I think/hope. More underground features...
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I write reviews for my printed fanzine, here is one written by me that YK used.
I still think whether I should add the reviews I write to Metal-Archives, so those who don't know about the zine could read about these releases. After all - those who buy zines, buy them mostly because of the feeling of holding an actual zine, at least I do so and I'm pretty sure that others do as well. I still wonder whether such a move could harm the sales results though, since this means money loss for labels who distribute it and it's just the same as ripping them off for me (since I get the label's stuff before the label sells a single copy and I want them to sell it well and get the money they deserve and keep trading with me when I release more issues). I don't mind though if bands (but not ANYONE else!) scan the interviews I did with them on their myspace (like in this case for example), since spreading the word about bands I like, respect and believe in is the main reason why I do it. Some opinions concerning this point would be very appreciated by the way, from fanzines readers, zines editors and labels owners...
Sorry for the off-topic...
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

did some in the past but its total waste of time, cause the
review won't show someone, how the music really sounds...
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://wormgearzine.com


Check it out. Tons of reviews.

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