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Early Meshuggah and related.
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Frozen



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:29 am    Post subject: Early Meshuggah and related. Reply with quote

As someone sarcastically alluded to earlier in the Pantera thread, the only thing worse would be one on Meshuggah, so let us have it. They lost me after Destroy Erase Improve, but that album blew my mind. You could trace the band's early style back to ...And Justice for All-era Metallica, but at that point they had strayed so far from their influences, that there really was nothing to compare them to. To this day, I find Destroy Erase Improve to be one of the most fully realised works of the '90s, capturing the paranoid zeitgeist of its time. Forget about Dream Theater and Fates Warning, this was and is truly progressive music.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll go with Chaosphere, but I also absolutely adore all the later albums.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:38 am    Post subject: Re: Early Meshuggah and related. Reply with quote

Frozen wrote:
this was and is truly progressive music.

man i can remember a little over a decade ago getting flamed so hard on a certain metal forum for saying this very same thing. and now all prog metal sounds just like Meshuggah Razz
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You forgot to add the option FUCK OFF!
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Lord Frieza



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marlboro wrote:
You forgot to add the option FUCK OFF!


Oh boy. Apparently Meshuggah aren't heavy metal enough for this forum.

None / DEI.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Next up... a Deftones poll followed by a Limp Bizkit thread and then the return of Watain and finally Ghost threads. Full circle.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I..d...on...t....likethisband...because.....I...don't lik.ee...th..eir...rhythmsandchordsandtheirwholesongwriting....
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:24 am    Post subject: Re: Early Meshuggah and related. Reply with quote

Frozen wrote:
there really was nothing to compare them to.


Confessor.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I gave them a fair chance i.e multiple listens, a long time ago, this stuff just grates on me like nothing else. I'm perhaps too weak for stuff like this. Or maybe I'm being too hard on myself given the rather sizeable overlap in Audience between Meshuggah , Deahthcore and Nu Metal. But that isn't a slight on the band though, I know plenty who enjoy Maiden, Priest (albeit mostly Painkiller and what followed) Sabbath etc. Less obnoxious than Pantera Overall, almost makes Revenge less boring in comparison.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marlboro wrote:
You forgot to add the option FUCK OFF!
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The Fallen



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can take a few songs, but listening through a whole album is a tough job. Also, I LOL at how the majority of their fans are like "OMG their the most technical band evahr" while most of them couldn't explain what a polyrythm is if their lives depended on it.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Fallen wrote:
I can take a few songs, but listening through a whole album is a tough job. Also, I LOL at how the majority of their fans are like "OMG their the most technical band evahr" while most of them couldn't explain what a polyrythm is if their lives depended on it.


Can is far more extreme indeed! But for people who consider that Dream Theatre is the Alpha & Omega of music, I suppose those Swedes are incredibly avant-garde.

Anyway D/E/I/ was not a bad album at all.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sinistrogyre wrote:
The Fallen wrote:
I can take a few songs, but listening through a whole album is a tough job. Also, I LOL at how the majority of their fans are like "OMG their the most technical band evahr" while most of them couldn't explain what a polyrythm is if their lives depended on it.


Can is far more extreme indeed! But for people who consider that Dream Theatre is the Alpha & Omega of music, I suppose those Swedes are incredibly avant-garde.

Anyway D/E/I/ was not a bad album at all.


I gave Images & Words a spin recently, after many years and it just sounds like unrelated, thrown together parts in the prog sections and the "ballads" sound like they could have been on the Lion King soundtrack. Will definitely sell it asap.

On topic, Fredrik T. is one hell of a lead guitarist, but really someone take that 8 string away from him.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I first heard them on the Nuclear Blast 100 comp and then picked up their None EP when it came out. I was already into more extreme stuff at the time but their unique sound caught my ear. To me, it was similar to industrial metal but without the industrial sounds. I think Chaosphere was the most like that. It gives me the same feeling that I get from Godflesh. But Destroy Erase Improve is my favorite because it's more varied and nuanced, and they hadn't totally abandoned their thrash influences at that point.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DEI is a cool album. Not as one note as a lot of the stuff that came after and the leads in particular are really good. The lead guitars have this weird, liquidy fusion tone that meshes really well with the music.
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