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GoldenBull



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 2:36 pm    Post subject: Rotting Christ drums? Reply with quote

This might very well be a stupid question, but are the drums real or electronic on Thy Mighty Contract? I have heard claims for both types, but I honestly think they sound real. Shit, if they are fake they are one of about 5 albums I have ever heard with good sounding drum machines.

So what is the verdict?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

drum machine.

There was a thread about drum machines and this was confirmed by Kyrck.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oops, should have searched.

But man, that is crazy. I wonder what makes the drums sound so fucking good then...total 80s heaviness.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GoldenBull wrote:


I wonder what makes the drums sound so fucking good then...total 80s heaviness.


...a good Drum Machine and someone who knows how to properly run one. Alot of people will say that the Boss DR-880 Dr. Rhythm is the best DM out there, but I have always liked Akai's, and it is $100 cheaper.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When we hear that bands use a drum machine I wonder if they actually mean that they used a V-Drum set with an actual drummer playing them. When I listen to "Thy Mighty Contract" it still feels "human" to me even though it sounds like a machine.

Same thoughts with MYSTIFIER "Wicca".

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed, it has a kind of "dynamic" style of playing that a machine cannot reproduce. Great album...
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I interviewed Jim Mutilator around '95 he claimed the drums to be real... not sure where that leaves us, but that was direct from one of the horses mouths so to speak. Doesn't explain the sound necessarily, but...
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blood and Thunder wrote:
Doesn't explain the sound necessarily, but...


Being a studio nerd I can tell you, at least 70% of Metal albums from the late '80s/early '90s -
especially Thrash albums - were recorded with completely triggered, or even electronic kits. This includes:

DEATH - First 3 albums
ENTOMBED - "Clandestine"
METALLICA - "Ride the Lightning"
CORONER - first 3 albums
SLAYER - Everything before "Reign In Blood"
TESTAMENT - First 4 albums
DEATH ANGEL - "The Ultraviolence"

On some they just replaced the kick, snare & toms with electronic samples, but on many it was actual electronic drum pads!
If you listen to the isolated drum tracks from "...And Justice for All" (Which can be ripped from Guitar Hero)
you'll hear that Lars' kick is 100% fake, though the rest of the kit seems to be real.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blood and Thunder wrote:
When I interviewed Jim Mutilator around '95 he claimed the drums to be real... not sure where that leaves us, but that was direct from one of the horses mouths so to speak. Doesn't explain the sound necessarily, but...

I went on tour withe those guys around the "Non serviam" time, and Sauron (Efthimis if I am not wrong, the drummer) told me he recorded the durms and the Magus Wampyr did some process where it was his beat but with a pre-recorded sound, form a drum machine...go figure out what it really meant, but it does makes sense after a while...it does have mechanical parts and human beats...
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sounds to me that it is the same game as D666 and their "Phoenix Rising". Human is playing the drums and then it get "digitalized" or something like this. But I am a layperson about this all...
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Obviously you guys missed my post. Look up^^^^
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess CHEMIKILLER's LP was a drum machine too. I find that hard to believe.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crypticus wrote:
Obviously you guys missed my post. Look up^^^^
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No, I did not! I just didn't have anything to contribute at all to your lines, besides that this didn't come as a suprise to me...
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crypticus wrote:
Being a studio nerd I can tell you, at least 70% of Metal albums from the late '80s/early '90s -
especially Thrash albums - were recorded with completely triggered, or even electronic kits. This includes:

DEATH - First 3 albums
ENTOMBED - "Clandestine"
METALLICA - "Ride the Lightning"
CORONER - first 3 albums
SLAYER - Everything before "Reign In Blood"
TESTAMENT - First 4 albums
DEATH ANGEL - "The Ultraviolence"

On some they just replaced the kick, snare & toms with electronic samples, but on many it was actual electronic drum pads!


What do you base this information on?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Professor Black wrote:
crypticus wrote:
Being a studio nerd I can tell you, at least 70% of Metal albums from the late '80s/early '90s -
especially Thrash albums - were recorded with completely triggered, or even electronic kits. This includes:

DEATH - First 3 albums
ENTOMBED - "Clandestine"
METALLICA - "Ride the Lightning"
CORONER - first 3 albums
SLAYER - Everything before "Reign In Blood"
TESTAMENT - First 4 albums
DEATH ANGEL - "The Ultraviolence"

On some they just replaced the kick, snare & toms with electronic samples, but on many it was actual electronic drum pads!


What do you base this information on?


I was wondering the same thing.
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