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Asgardsrei 2017: ABSURD, PESTE NOIRE, GOATMOON, M8L8TH...
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha, wow this is hilarious Laughing So much butthurt feelings over a gig. Well, I'm sure it's going to divide opinions even more once it's done!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DTBRex wrote:

However:

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Heilsa !

thanks for your Mail. I hate JewFN and MERCHANT OF DEATH. JFN is a Traitor.
I have only interested on Vetche CD?s.
JFN he abuses this name, he is not ABSURD ! ABSURD is only WOLF and UNHOLD !!!
Best Greetings from Germany - SMASH JewFN / SAVE ABSURD !!!
Jens (Asemit from TOTENBURG)


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And what do Wolf and/or Unhold think/say 'bout that? Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rthdx wrote:

And what do Wolf and/or Unhold think/say 'bout that? Smile


That this guy speaks only for himself and not for anyone else, obviously.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The thing is most music bands are based on the talent of one main composer, like Nirvana was based on Kurt Cobain, Smashing Pumpkins were based on Billy Corgan, etc.

In the case of Absurd, the first line-up was based on Sebastian Schauseil and the second line-up was based on Unhold. I mean, both composed the main part of the music, the melodies, guitar and bass lines, vocals etc. Drums and lyrics are kind of accessory in extreme metal, they are very important for me but the fact is most listeners are mostly touched by the main melodies and don't care too much about drum patterns and lyrics.

That being said, and without questioning anyone's talent, we can have legitimate doubts about how Absurd will sound like without the former two main members who composed, recorded and performed like 3/4 of the music.

We already saw such situations in the past... Like Mayhem...
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is hilarious.

The heart and soul of ABSURD in my opinion was JFN / DMD + Wolf. Things changed and will always do. JFN being active on stage may be the best and most authentic for everyone interested in the "true" ABSURD.
During the classical line-up DMD did the music and JFN the propaganda and presentation of the band (most important! See Asgardsrei LP!!!).
I personally never was a huge "fan" of the newer ABSURD stuff (after Totenlieder), so I see this as a comeback even more to the roots, actually in the most possible way (for I dont think that DMD ever will join horde ABSURD again, no?).
So, even though I will not make it to Kiev, ABSURD has got my full attention again.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Soleil Blanc wrote:
We already saw such situations in the past... Like Mayhem...


Can't imagine Absurd doing anything as gay as Grand Declaration of War tho, with or without DMD or Unhold.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sorta bummed out about the Absurd lineup changes.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wolfsturm888 wrote:
This is hilarious.

The heart and soul of ABSURD in my opinion was JFN / DMD + Wolf. Things changed and will always do. JFN being active on stage may be the best and most authentic for everyone interested in the "true" ABSURD.
During the classical line-up DMD did the music and JFN the propaganda and presentation of the band (most important! See Asgardsrei LP!!!).
I personally never was a huge "fan" of the newer ABSURD stuff (after Totenlieder), so I see this as a comeback even more to the roots, actually in the most possible way (for I dont think that DMD ever will join horde ABSURD again, no?).
So, even though I will not make it to Kiev, ABSURD has got my full attention again.


he may be the heart and soul, but i doubt that he's the real vocal organ ... but future will tell. and I hope he's training his voicing until the gig because the vocal-performance he did on Pesttanz was pretty bad Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

can't be any worse than Peste Noire live, r-e-l-a-x!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phlegma wrote:
I hope he's training his voicing until the gig because the vocal-performance he did on Pesttanz was pretty bad


Even that clip is from a gig that was 5 years ago. Obviously something not really planned before hand but more like an impromptu moment. But for sure a lot of people base their opinions on something like this.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ratoni wrote:
I'm sorta bummed out about the Absurd lineup changes.


Aye, me too. The Unhold-era was the best era, in my opinion. Blutgericht, Weltenfeind, plus a few glorious tracks off of Totenlieder - especially "Wenn Walküren Reiten," which I assume is his work too (?). Just brilliant, brilliant stuff all around. Honestly I think one could make the case that during this era he was one of the top-3 writers of melodies in all of metal.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phlegma wrote:

he may be the heart and soul, but i doubt that he's the real vocal organ ...


It's kinda cool to be met with so much doubt. Makes it super easy to exceed all expectations! Very Happy

Steken wrote:
ratoni wrote:
I'm sorta bummed out about the Absurd lineup changes.


Aye, me too. The Unhold-era was the best era, in my opinion.


The band history ain't over yet, so hold your breath. Furthermore, the Unhold-era ended with "Weltenfeind" in 2008, for all practical purposes, and there wasn't any new record ever since. With a new line-up and all, the band can carry on, at long last.

Also: http://www.nwnprod.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=35164&postdays=0&postorder=asc&vote=viewresult

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This will be an amazing performance for sure - hopefully some video is taken for those who can't be there.

This would be a prime DVD release, I reckon.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DTBRex wrote:
Phlegma wrote:

he may be the heart and soul, but i doubt that he's the real vocal organ ...


It's kinda cool to be met with so much doubt. Makes it super easy to exceed all expectations! Very Happy


it wasn't my intention to do so but i can only judge what i know Wink
and that's the track on the nokturne album. wasn't aware that this one is from a gig 5years ago.

anyway ... gutes gelingen Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steken wrote:
Honestly I think one could make the case that during this era he was one of the top-3 writers of melodies in all of metal.


According to MA, he is a permanent member of GBK now. So, what if... what if Gelal AND Unhold will start writing riffs and melodies for GBK together from now on?

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