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brutalman1488



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DTBRex wrote:
l.b. wrote:
the most original (and good) concept I've ever seen in black metal


QFT.

This concept itself is absolutely amazing. I am more than pleased that I have blindly trusted them when I have agreed to this release, and rightly so!


What do You mean?
i have all stuff (except last album) of this band.
And i always thought that they are NS
but now i see sickle and hammer on sleeve(((
whats the shit?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't trust your eyes! Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DTBRex wrote:
Don't trust your eyes! Cool


now I am quiet))

recently, there is too much shit in the heads of some camarades((
continuous attempts to find the general with communism and anarchism...
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

brutalman1488 wrote:
but now i see sickle and hammer on sleeve(((
whats the shit?


FUCK! I'm totally shocked! I will throw away my collection!
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

brutalman1488 wrote:
DTBRex wrote:
Don't trust your eyes! Cool


now I am quiet))

recently, there is too much shit in the heads of some camarades((
continuous attempts to find the general with communism and anarchism...


Do not worry, they are among those few in Black Metal who have a clear perception and understanding of what they are talking/singing about.

Plus you find their lyrics on Metal-Archives... maybe someone can translate for you, since they are German.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 3:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What the hell is this new album all about? Parody? Sarcasm? Idiocy?
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Marinetti



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's about an italian faggot who fucks an russian gay or inverse Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, Menegroth's concept is based on some sort of occultist, or more probably traditionalist national bolshevism? Summoning the spectres of Marx and Stalin in nocturnal rituals; it's like Hammer Films picturising a Žižek book, with Julius Evola's ghost writing the script.

Are there samples of the "Das rote Werk" album available online? Also, are Menegroth proponents of Eurasianism?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you can find some samples here: http://www.lastfm.de/music/Menegroth/Das+rote+Werk

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Summoning the spectres of Marx and Stalin in nocturnal rituals; it's like Hammer Films picturising a Žižek book, with Julius Evola's ghost writing the script.
Laughing I like this point of view.

The concept is like a david lynch film. It's hard to find the key to decode it. But it has nothing to do with socialism (also not with nazi skinhead ideology) and don't focus only the first parts/first tracks of the album. At the End, the Tsar will rise again. Eurasianism? It's to modern but of course I believe in Empires and Kingdoms, not in Nations.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cover of Gazourmah is ugliest I've seen ever. Look like hardcore band try to yellow goat of Bathory.

Also what do Tolkien (Menegroth is from Silmarillion according metal archives and I have no reason to doubt) have to do with occult marxism ressurect Lenin concept?

Such concept remind of book by author of Fatherland (but not that book) where stalin son is found living in wood but i canrt remember what happen in the end if anything. I think he shoot someone.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mindlock wrote:
(albeit, not self-proclaimed nsbm)


Important distinction.

Most of black metal thinks Hitler didn't go far enough.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Menegroth Reply with quote

ticino1 wrote:

http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=cw3_JicSPfM


This has promise. The song has more clear direction and overall assembly than most black metal these days. It has some confused genre stuff in it though, like when it goes Iron Maiden at the 3:00 mark. That's a different song that needs to birth out of this one. Some riffs are too symmetrical and happy. For the speed-metal style trudge riff, do it on the downbeat and liberate either guitars or vocals from the rhythm, maybe texture up the drums, to stop the chant-effect. Good use of theme but make the riffs less happy and logical, maybe a bit more organic and unhinged. Also it's ridiculous to say they're NSBM, they're clearly inspired by the fascist and futurist movements. There's actually some intense interest in that direction now. Will watch these guys.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Menegroth Reply with quote

Conservationist wrote:
... they're clearly inspired by the fascist and futurist movements. There's actually some intense interest in that direction now. Will watch these guys.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gromcrom wrote:
Also what do Tolkien (Menegroth is from Silmarillion according metal archives and I have no reason to doubt) have to do with occult marxism ressurect Lenin concept?


If you're familiar with their discography, you would see that they changed their concepts like other people their underwear.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5g1RcdjkOqo
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