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Master's Hammer "The Fall Of Idol" Demo 1990
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CR99



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 6:04 am    Post subject: Master's Hammer "The Fall Of Idol" Demo 1990 Reply with quote

I need to know how an original The Fall Of Idol looks like, or how it does NOT look like.
I got one and it's on a very old, regular BASF tape with xerox logo label on side A. As an extra the Finished. demo 1988 is on side B.
The Inlay has a purple print (not xerox or anything) and is slightly blurred.
A czech friend said the logo label on the tape is like they were sent out back then.
Anyone knows for sure?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"expeditor" sold at least 2 copies of that demo last year (his picture and your description match but I do not know about originality).
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know. this is the other argument against this tape besides the strange print.

The sound quality on the other hand is ace. Better than any rip I heard from internet resources.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This email I got from a friend, but I have to show it here. Forget about tapes on ebay...


--snipp---
A huge necromantia fan, sent me the scans of the letters attached to the two promo 93 tapes of Necromantia he got from expeditor. Well, the guy enjoyed himself writing those letters. It's like how I thought it was: he wrote those letters in perfect English, Magus also answered his questions in perfect English, from my experience just a native English speaker could write those letters.
I got 3 mails from Magus and you can tell he is not a native English speaker.
I lived several years in the USA without speaking Swedish, but I can't write that well and I will never be able to! Some expressions just come up from Americans, I think you know what I mean.
In my opinion all expeditor's demos are fake, none of them is original!
He just found some old tapes and made the cards.
--snapp---
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had the same experience with the Darkthrone demo I got from this asshole. The so called original flyers he sold with the demo were obvious fakes with lots of pixels. How dumb can he be? There were no computer generated flyers back in the late 80's!!! The guy is a total rip off piece of shit and should be exposed as such.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know that at least some of the tapes he had were original, I compared them with my own. That was when he started to sell his stuff. He surely smelled business later.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nexxxion wrote:
I know that at least some of the tapes he had were original, I compared them with my own. That was when he started to sell his stuff. He surely smelled business later.


That was my impression too.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NWN PROD wrote:
I had the same experience with the Darkthrone demo I got from this asshole.

NWN PROD wrote:
How dumb can he be?

- not to be an asshole, but, are you sure thats the correct question that you should be asking?!?!? -

- if he got money from you [ & others ], hes obviously not dumb at all -
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought so as well. And I wonder how good this demo sounds, better than every source I found.
He told me this thing with his old distro back then linked to Uncle Underground.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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- not to be an asshole, but, are you sure thats the correct question that you should be asking?!?!? -

- if he got money from you [ & others ], hes obviously not dumb at all -


Yes I am dumb and you are an asshole.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually filed a complaint against him because of the inlay to get responses and a possible refund in time and I got this shady reply with Uncle Underground. I wished I would have complained a non recieved item instead of a fake item complaint. Little did I know since because of that it was bound to be lost.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey CR99,

Yes, this is an original. The tapes were sent out in this exact way back in the early '90s. The Finished demo was put on the B side of most "Fall of Idol" tapes that were meant as promos for labels, etc. I have a very similar tape to your own.

It's impossible to know for SURE, but I have looked into it for several years and this is the information I have found out.

Expeditor was trying to get me to send him some of my Czech demos with the original covers scanned, etc. Although he was selling all of his items anyway? Smelt scammy to me. I know that some of his demos were originals -- but I'm sure most were fakes.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chicken_Dance wrote:
Hey CR99,

Yes, this is an original. The tapes were sent out in this exact way back in the early '90s. The Finished demo was put on the B side of most "Fall of Idol" tapes that were meant as promos for labels, etc. I have a very similar tape to your own.


Thanks This is what my contacts told me also.
Fall Of Idol was more of a promo for the Ritual. LP
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One more thing... "expeditor" sold also Finnish Satanic Evil demo which was made just like this Masters Hammer demo... same black BASF type + xeroxed logo glued onto tape.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beeing almost obsessed by this band since I discovered them, I always wanted to hear the demos (except the Jilemnicky Okultista-tape which I have). I never download music, but i had to make an exception for the demos. So yesterday I downloaded The Mass and The Fall of Idol.
And I have to say the The Fall of Idol is some of the best stuff i ever heard. It fucking slays, and when i have listened to it more, I wouldn't be surprised if I rank this over Ritual.
Especially Kazdy Z Ns Bj Boha sounds so much better here than on the debut.
At last, the question: Are the drums real or programmed?
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