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thrashbeast



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CrushUntilMadness wrote:
I just know for a fact they are 666% supportive to metal and very reliable on any aspect


I never questioned how true to the scene they are or their reliability. I've ordered from them several times and never had a problem. It's their integrity I wonder about...
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Bootlegs have been around for decades. If many of you are going to bitch about these bootlegs, then was it okay for NWN to sell boots of Dismember & Sadistic Intent? I don't hear anyone bitching about that, even though the bands did not receive any of the proceeds. And yes, I bought a Sadistic Intent bootleg.

However, will I be purchasing these mini-cds from HHR? No. Will I start slamming them and trying to spread hatred about the label. Of course not. I will still continue to make many purchases from HHR because they are a highly reputable and dependable label/distro. It is run by 3 guys who are 100% metalheads and spend 100% of their time on HHR. Just like Yosuke, Tyler, and other dependable labels, they even go to concerts and show support for the bands. Do they try to make money. Hmmmm, let's see. They have costs of living like you and me, they have to try and make money to support their future releases ,and they are trying to continue running the label full time in this fucked up economy. All of you know this, yet few admit it. So who is the real hypocrite?


Don't drag me into this shitty thread.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blasphgore wrote:
HHR run a tight ship, i doubt anything on their part was done with bad intentions. great label. great distro.

Indeed...yeah, sometimes it sucks to have bootlegs, but that's life.
You don't like them? Don't buy it...period.
HHR is a great label, good prices for vinyl and good attitude. Together with NWN they take away most of my cash...bastards!!! Hehe... Razz
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm pretty sure most people weren't really attacking HHR as a whole, but rather the fact that they're carrying bootlegs and not advertising them as bootlegs. I don't like bootlegs either and I don't like when labels and distros carry bootlegs, but I get over it. I hate when they don't label it as a bootleg though.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

anyone with a brain would know those are bootlegs anyway, why must they mention it?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Notions of "bootleg" and "support" can become even more convoluted if you care to lend some abstract thought.

Here's an example. I bought a copy of Left Hand Path on LP from my friend. He bought it at a record shop when it came out, but Entombed did not receive any of their royalties from the sale, because Earache keeps its books in an oven. The band also didn't receive any money when my friend sold the LP to me second-hand. Let's say the record originally cost $15, and I paid my friend $25. That's $40 that has been spent on this copy of Left Hand Path, and the band has received nothing.

Sure, my LP is not a bootleg, but the band received no support whatsoever.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dronevil wrote:
anyone with a brain would know those are bootlegs anyway, why must they mention it?


First of all, because not everyone has a brain.

Secondly, because not all cases are as obvious as this.

Thirdly, it's just a good thing to do. A lot of people don't want to buy bootlegs, and intentionally not mentioning that in order to get people who don't know better to buy these bootlegs thinking they're the original article is shitty.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

25$ for LHP? Is it hard to find in the US Chris?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess it is, I'm still looking for one Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Anyone can bootleg our stuff!" - Gezolucifer
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OrdenSatani wrote:
"Anyone can bootleg our stuff!" - Gezolucifer


"bands should be proud to get bootlegged" anonymous musician
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chit019 wrote:
I guess it is, I'm still looking for one Laughing

Weird. I'll check the posibility to get a copy for 12-13 bucks that I saw someone selling here, if you're interested. Dunno about insert presense and condition though.
As for supporting bands, downloading mp3's and writing a review in an e-zine is a bigger support than buying any 2nd hand release. The best way is just sending them cash, but who actually buys any releases with a priority to support a band before getting an album with music you enjoy? Who added a DEMON ENTRAILS 3-LP to his collection with an intention to support Warrior and Ain?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Werewolf wrote:
Chit019 wrote:
I guess it is, I'm still looking for one Laughing

Weird. I'll check the posibility to get a copy for 12-13 bucks that I saw someone selling here, if you're interested. Dunno about insert presense and condition though.


That would be great. Well I'm not really a hardcore collector like most people here as long as it plays perfectly and the cover is presentable then I'm good. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a big difference between bootlegs made for the music (e.g. Dismember demos that weren't on wax) and stuff made purely for cash (almost anything Greek).
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The_Elite wrote:
There's a big difference between bootlegs made for the music (e.g. Dismember demos that weren't on wax) and stuff made purely for cash (almost anything Greek).


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