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SepticSchizo



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hehe, I ordered too, but something isnt making much sense...
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vukodlak wrote:
What about all those Panzerfaust etc. releases that were officialy released? You think those are bootlegs too?

SepticSchizo wrote:
Hehe, I ordered too, but something isnt making much sense...

Oh my, guys, do you remember that thing called common sense? Do you really expect someone to sell a first press of e. g. "Panzerfaust" for peanuts when he lists obvious bootlegs with the same hilarious description of how "100% original" they were at the same time? Man, this is quite some dupable thinking. Well, no wonder cheaply made bootlegs pop up dime a dozen these days when buyers grab 'em that eagerly.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

s.charlach wrote:
toxicbreed wrote:
some pretty rare DSP and Malicious original pressings

http://www.undercover-records.de/shop/

look under "Rarities"

prices between 25€ and 30€

Brilliant, now that's good comedy. "Remainders , 100% original with original Matrix on the Vinyl" of albums that haven't even been released on vinyl yet.


Since he also has the Wongraven and Primordial lp's in there i guess its from the same bootleger but advertised as original pressings (of something that never existed in the first place).
I will skip the opportunity and wait to see if someone else will stock them
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JUst saw the email and tried to order DHG and Gorgoroth stuff but they are all sold out.

He also has two Deicide albums that I am sure have never been released on vinyl.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

s.charlach wrote:
vukodlak wrote:
What about all those Panzerfaust etc. releases that were officialy released? You think those are bootlegs too?

SepticSchizo wrote:
Hehe, I ordered too, but something isnt making much sense...

Oh my, guys, do you remember that thing called common sense? Do you really expect someone to sell a first press of e. g. "Panzerfaust" for peanuts when he lists obvious bootlegs with the same hilarious description of how "100% original" they were at the same time? Man, this is quite some dupable thinking. Well, no wonder cheaply made bootlegs pop up dime a dozen these days when buyers grab 'em that eagerly.


Im gonna cansel the order, anyways, after doing some "checking". I havent payd yet. Embarassed
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just because he is selling rare LP's for good prices, doesn't necessarily means, he is selling bootlegs. There is a guy on this forum who recently bought Funeral Mist- Salvation LP form HHR for what, 20 usd???
I bought Paysage D' Hiver LP's from Eternity records for 40 euros each, while they were selling for 100+. So this kind of things happen from time to time.

Anyway, I didn't order! What makes me suspicious is that he is having multiple copies of each LP and he is stating that the LP's have the original matrix numbers, and that's exactly what all those newer bootlegs DO have. If those were really the originals he would not try to convince us with that kind of argument.

What still makes me suspicious is that a man behind a well established label/shop is putting his entire reputaion in question by selling bootlegs as 100% original releases.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vukodlak wrote:
Just because he is selling rare LP's for good prices, doesn't necessarily means, he is selling bootlegs. There is a guy on this forum who recently bought Funeral Mist- Salvation LP form HHR for what, 20 usd???



Yeah but undercover has a bad reputation I never ordered from them but have heard others complain. Also they usually have a rare section on the website with the normal high prices now all of a sudden he is selling the 1st two DHG LPs for 30 euro each he would be well aware that these are worth a lot more than that.

Anyway I hope the DHG stuff are bootlegs and copies starting making it to other distros soon.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vukodlak wrote:
Just because he is selling rare LP's for good prices, doesn't necessarily means, he is selling bootlegs.

And I didn't say that. Let me rephrase it for you, what are the odds that you'll get an original press of a rare LP described as "100% original" when he even has the cheek to advertise records that have NEVER been released on vinyl before as "100% original" dead stock at the same time? I mean, that really is like putting one and one together, isn't it?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vukodlak wrote:

I bought Paysage D' Hiver LP's from Eternity records for 40 euros each, while they were selling for 100+. So this kind of things happen from time to time.


And don't I now feel like a douche!

s.charlach wrote:
when he even has the cheek to advertise records that have NEVER been released on vinyl before


Pretty much all that needs to be said.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

s.charlach wrote:
vukodlak wrote:
Just because he is selling rare LP's for good prices, doesn't necessarily means, he is selling bootlegs.

And I didn't say that. Let me rephrase it for you, what are the odds that you'll get an original press of a rare LP described as "100% original" when he even has the cheek to advertise records that have NEVER been released on vinyl before as "100% original" dead stock at the same time? I mean, that really is like putting one and one together, isn't it?


And I didn't say you did! I was not talking to you, that was just my statement. If you read my whole post you will find out that I share your opinion. I think too that those are the bootlegs and I will not order them.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks NWN for making us avoid such lousy and despicable moves

Anyway Satyricon and DHG LPs were gone quickly, I wonder how many copies he managed to smuggle...
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hahaha just saw the Undercover email in my junk mail. Jesus. Yet another distro on my 'never buy from' list.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very boring label, always the same tr00 BM in thousands of colours.
Got the mail, too. First, my attention was really close to those offers. But when I read further that he's selling original DSP Deathcrush pressing for lousy 25€, my suspicion began to arise....
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

25€ for Burzum bootlegs : I was in da place & contact them.

But then it was too late to go in their shop in get the. I guess they pretend to have only one copy of each for now.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone seen any good embroidered Assuck patches anywhere?
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