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GROUND ZERO Entertainment



Joined: 17 Jun 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 6:25 am    Post subject: Who is at fault... Reply with quote

Got a small trade today from a label in MALAYSIA...

5 HELLWITCH / STORMING STEELS split CDs...

The guy mailed them in a REGULAR envelope, no padding, no bubble wrap, just a paper envelope, with the CDs in one plastic sleeve inside & the booklets in another plastic sleeve...

Well, surprise, surprise: 4 out of 5 CDs are cracked & unplayable despite there being no obvious damage to the envelope....

Also sent it REGISTERED without telling me & wants his part of trade also sent to him REGISTERED which is another $10.80 on top of postage of $5.50...
And he wants his stamps back, which means he isn't really paying for his postage as he re-uses his stamps & we can't do that here...

So if I uphold my end it'll cost me $16.30 for 1 CD plus my part of the trade on top....

Fuck it!
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dalecooper



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd send him back his package, unregistered, and tell him to forget it.
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sztorm75



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is very fuck up, and it happens often in this side of the world
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CR99



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

very few honest to the bone people there, be happy to have one CD at least
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Detest Records



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

this side of the world has to be avoided in most cases.

As far as I'm concerned, I only deal with some people I have been knowing for years such as Witchhammer Prod.
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Ross Liew



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would agree a lot fuckheads from Malaysia or South East Asia have given those who are true fans a bad name.

I think you should forget about sending over your package and not worry about him bad mouthing you cause i believe more people know you deal reliably than otherwise (if at all).
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thetrueevil



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Malays are generally very stupid and has low IQ.This is just a lesson to you so be careful next time.It is such a pity to be neighbours with Malaysia.No offence to other races.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dalecooper wrote:
I'd send him back his package, unregistered, and tell him to forget it.


I agree.
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NWN PROD



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had an asshole from Malaysia do a PayPal claim on me when his parcel was sitting in Malaysian customs. I of course lost the claim because Paypal is a shit system and they always side with the buyers no matter how much proof you have.

I usually don't take orders from Malaysians unless I know them.

Isn't black metal illegal there?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's the other guy's fault for sending the shit in an envelope. Ask him to send you replacement CDs.
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Piotr Sargnagel



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Send it back.
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GROUND ZERO Entertainment



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I should have been more wary...
but, as he was sending his stuff first, I figured all was good!!!!

And the thing is, the CD is actually pretty cool! If he had just used a padded mailer (or a rigid box) like EVERYONE does...no problems!!!
I wouldn't have been thrilled about the registered part...but I'd have 5 CDs not 1!
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Demoniarch



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I sure wouldn't be sending no stamps back...

Actually to be honest, I would probably package up 5 cd's with 4 broken in half and send them his way in a nice perfectly unmarked envelope just like you got.
Take the one time loss and send the fucker what he sent you.

Lex Talionis postage/trading style. Razz
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iron tyrant



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take pics, insult the guy for not being able to pack things properly, and ask for replacement cd. If he doesn't agree just tell him to fuck off and that's it.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How stupid should one be in order to pay extra for a registered package, instead of packing the stuff well.... And I think it's really better just to give up the CD that survived and send all the stuff packed the same way he sent it. And never deal with him in the future of corpse...
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