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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a good thread Cool . There's definitely Repulsion riffs on "INRI" too !
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't deny Deutschland's BLOOD for influencing death and black metal. And probably releasing the highest quality material in grindcore. No other band in the genre has more than 3 good records besides Blood.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DESECRATOR777 wrote:
hard core / grind core basically brought in the blast beats to metal.

This cannot be emphasized enough...

great thread, lino!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Septic Death's 'Now That...' is a sonic whirlwind and a total anomaly. I doubt this had any influence on anyone but it's a great reckid and has the same energy and barbarity of the aforementioned classics. Rarely hear/ read anyone worshipping this masterpiece which is just plain absurd given its unrelenting extremity and atmosfuckingphere. Total classic that has slayed with me since back in tha dizzay.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

both bands pushed the envelope and set the bar for their sub sub sub genres they belong too....
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crazy that this is 30 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvnclqWFL9M
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iron Lord wrote:
Septic Death's 'Now That...' is a sonic whirlwind and a total anomaly. I doubt this had any influence on anyone but it's a great reckid and has the same energy and barbarity of the aforementioned classics. Rarely hear/ read anyone worshipping this masterpiece which is just plain absurd given its unrelenting extremity and atmosfuckingphere. Total classic that has slayed with me since back in tha dizzay.


That is a total underrated classic for sure. Also, these guys. Crazy to think that something this completely fucking nutso came out when it did. The vocal style is light years ahead of it's time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkB7U-xFNOM

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satanic ritual abuse



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nolan_B wrote:
Can't deny Deutschland's BLOOD for influencing death and black metal. And probably releasing the highest quality material in grindcore. No other band in the genre has more than 3 good records besides Blood.


There are a lot of grind bands with a consistent discography, for example:

Regurgitate
Agathocles
Yacopsae
Phobia
Dead Infection
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

United Mutation's vocals... Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wilding wrote:
Also, these guys. Crazy to think that something this completely fucking nutso came out when it did. The vocal style is light years ahead of it's time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkB7U-xFNOM


This is great. Some truly bizarre shit out back in those days. Not heard this at all until now so cheers for the heads up!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

satanic ritual abuse wrote:
Nolan_B wrote:
Can't deny Deutschland's BLOOD for influencing death and black metal. And probably releasing the highest quality material in grindcore. No other band in the genre has more than 3 good records besides Blood.


There are a lot of grind bands with a consistent discography, for example:

Regurgitate
Agathocles
Yacopsae
Phobia
Dead Infection


good, but not even close to ....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CeHfz54LF8
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sluaghter - Strappado perfectly fits in the category. I always considered it as a twin record of Horrified.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This thread is drawing connections where there aren't any. What has ultra-fast HC like United Mutation or Siege to do with primitive Deathrash like Slaughter? Absolutely nothing, but some of you guys seem completely lost if they can't draw a linear bloodline from band A to band B via band C.

Blasphemy, Carcass and Repulsion sound NOTHING alike, neither musically nor production-wise. All of them had totally different exposure (Carcass were close to mainstream-fame, Repulsion was only known and respected in the DM/Grind-UG and Blasphemy....well, sorry to hurt some feelings but most people didn't took them seriously back in the days, similar like with Beherit) AND completely different influences/backgrounds. For example, some parts of early Chaos Z have resemblance to Ildjarn, but it was pure coincidence (prove otherwise if you know better).

I wasn't at the rehearsal places so I can't really tell, but I am quite sure there was never a plan to sound "bestial" or whatever you may call it, with none of the bands mentioned. This is something newer bands tried to emulate post-2000, not before - when the bazar opened for the free-riders.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it is quite known that Ildjarn at least was heavy into punk/hc?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DFP wrote:
This thread is drawing connections where there aren't any. What has ultra-fast HC like United Mutation or Siege to do with primitive Deathrash like Slaughter? Absolutely nothing, but some of you guys seem completely lost if they can't draw a linear bloodline from band A to band B via band C.

Blasphemy, Carcass and Repulsion sound NOTHING alike, neither musically nor production-wise. All of them had totally different exposure (Carcass were close to mainstream-fame, Repulsion was only known and respected in the DM/Grind-UG and Blasphemy....well, sorry to hurt some feelings but most people didn't took them seriously back in the days, similar like with Beherit) AND completely different influences/backgrounds. For example, some parts of early Chaos Z have resemblance to Ildjarn, but it was pure coincidence (prove otherwise if you know better).

I wasn't at the rehearsal places so I can't really tell, but I am quite sure there was never a plan to sound "bestial" or whatever you may call it, with none of the bands mentioned. This is something newer bands tried to emulate post-2000, not before - when the bazar opened for the free-riders.


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