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DTBRex



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 11:18 am    Post subject: Bandcamp terminating accounts Reply with quote

I have never heard of it before until it happened to me myself, but my Pro account at Bandcamp was terminated (completey wiped out) all of a sudden.
I have not received any warning or similar heads-up, also no notification from them afterwards. Hence I don't even know when it happened exactly.

I have emailed the BC-support and they replied:

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Your account was disabled for multiple violations of our Terms of Use (http://bandcamp.com/terms_of_use), specifically:

"[...] you shall not (and shall not permit any third party to) either (a) take any action or (b) upload, download, post, submit or otherwise distribute or facilitate distribution of any content on or through the Service, including without limitation any User Submission, that [...] is unlawful, threatening, abusive, harassing, defamatory, libelous, deceptive, fraudulent, invasive of another's privacy, tortious, obscene, offensive, or profane".


Did anyone (band or label) ever made a similar experience with Bandcamp? Like I said, it's the first time I heard they are into censorship of that kind.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Political correctness in overdrive, I bet. Such a fucking shame.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is a reality of these 21st century platforms
they have no time to dissect each little poetic nuance of someone's posted content (track titles, lyrics).. it's easier to brute force nuke anything that may seem "offensive" and leave it to the artists/labels to make a case for reinstatement
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Typical bullshit lawyer-speak, open to any interpretation that suits them. By all those vague adjectives, anything with a distorted guitar should be taken down. Rolling Eyes

My guess is, someone reported or found your Bandcamp and made a fuss about it.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

for sure there are groups who maintain "watch lists" and submit complaints when they feel sad
these are the same ilk of people who become bronies.. it's really one way or another for these types
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 7:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Bandcamp terminating accounts Reply with quote

DTBRex wrote:
I have never heard of it before until it happened to me myself, but my Pro account at Bandcamp was terminated (completey wiped out) all of a sudden.
I have not received any warning or similar heads-up, also no notification from them afterwards. Hence I don't even know when it happened exactly.

I have emailed the BC-support and they replied:

Quote:
Your account was disabled for multiple violations of our Terms of Use (http://bandcamp.com/terms_of_use), specifically:

"[...] you shall not (and shall not permit any third party to) either (a) take any action or (b) upload, download, post, submit or otherwise distribute or facilitate distribution of any content on or through the Service, including without limitation any User Submission, that [...] is unlawful, threatening, abusive, harassing, defamatory, libelous, deceptive, fraudulent, invasive of another's privacy, tortious, obscene, offensive, or profane".


Did anyone (band or label) ever made a similar experience with Bandcamp? Like I said, it's the first time I heard they are into censorship of that kind.


Censorship sucks, etc. etc., but if you are actually surprised at this, then our pure aryan race is bound for not glory. Hopefully stormfront will make good on their promise to create their fabled "1488Space" finally so we can tell those Zionists hipsters at bandcamp that the true white race will prevail and our Der Sturmer and Combat 88 cover bands will survive and for like free speech and stuff! Zeig Halal, bro.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

By chance I have found the culprit:
http://fracturedeurope.tumblr.com/post/101914228743/me-vs-hendrik-mobus-1-0

Well, if Bandcamp actually terminates accounts based on a single hogwash complaint, without consulting with the account holder prior to any decision and also without telling him about this decision subsequently, even though said account was paid for, then this place is seriously retarded and I'd advise every other label and band to be wary of dealing with Bandcamp in future.

Needless to say, I'm still waiting for the refund of the excess money I've paid for my account until November 20th, although the account was apparently terminated as early as November 6th. Gonna have to file a PayPal-complaint, I reckon.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's fucked up.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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All the music on this
page violates Bandcamp's 'Rules and Conduct' section of the Terms of
use, as the lyrics contain the National Socialist an neo-nazi
ideology, including violence, racism and hate speech.


https://bandcamp.com/terms_of_use

ha, not many of those things actually explicitly appear in the cited section

all these are super subjective:
"is unlawful, threatening, abusive, harassing, defamatory, libelous, deceptive, fraudulent, invasive of another's privacy, tortious, obscene, offensive, or profane"
most of the stuff on bandcamp seems like it would qualify
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DTBRex wrote:
By chance I have found the culprit:
http://fracturedeurope.tumblr.com/post/101914228743/me-vs-hendrik-mobus-1-0

I wouldn't have expected a tumblr social justice warrior to have been responsible for this, but it makes sense in hindsight.

I hope things get straightened out in your favor, however unlikely that may be.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DTBRex wrote:
Gonna have to file a PayPal-complaint, I reckon.


If they didn't even warn you the account was going to be closed I would just open a claim straight away.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lifeless wrote:
Quote:
All the music on this
page violates Bandcamp's 'Rules and Conduct' section of the Terms of
use, as the lyrics contain the National Socialist an neo-nazi
ideology, including violence, racism and hate speech.


https://bandcamp.com/terms_of_use

ha, not many of those things actually explicitly appear in the cited section

all these are super subjective:
"is unlawful, threatening, abusive, harassing, defamatory, libelous, deceptive, fraudulent, invasive of another's privacy, tortious, obscene, offensive, or profane"
most of the stuff on bandcamp seems like it would qualify

The vagueness is on purpose so that they have free reign to do whatever they want. I'll be surprised if DTB is able to get his money back from them given the terms and them deciding he was "in violation" of them. Pretty retarded situation all around.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 5:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Bandcamp terminating accounts Reply with quote

DIVERGENTSERIES wrote:

Censorship sucks, etc. etc., but if you are actually surprised at this, then our pure aryan race is bound for not glory. Hopefully stormfront will make good on their promise to create their fabled "1488Space" finally so we can tell those Zionists hipsters at bandcamp that the true white race will prevail and our Der Sturmer and Combat 88 cover bands will survive and for like free speech and stuff! Zeig Halal, bro.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 5:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Bandcamp terminating accounts Reply with quote

DIVERGENTSERIES wrote:
DTBRex wrote:
I have never heard of it before until it happened to me myself, but my Pro account at Bandcamp was terminated (completey wiped out) all of a sudden.
I have not received any warning or similar heads-up, also no notification from them afterwards. Hence I don't even know when it happened exactly.

I have emailed the BC-support and they replied:

Quote:
Your account was disabled for multiple violations of our Terms of Use (http://bandcamp.com/terms_of_use), specifically:

"[...] you shall not (and shall not permit any third party to) either (a) take any action or (b) upload, download, post, submit or otherwise distribute or facilitate distribution of any content on or through the Service, including without limitation any User Submission, that [...] is unlawful, threatening, abusive, harassing, defamatory, libelous, deceptive, fraudulent, invasive of another's privacy, tortious, obscene, offensive, or profane".


Did anyone (band or label) ever made a similar experience with Bandcamp? Like I said, it's the first time I heard they are into censorship of that kind.


Censorship sucks, etc. etc., but if you are actually surprised at this, then our pure aryan race is bound for not glory. Hopefully stormfront will make good on their promise to create their fabled "1488Space" finally so we can tell those Zionists hipsters at bandcamp that the true white race will prevail and our Der Sturmer and Combat 88 cover bands will survive and for like free speech and stuff! Zeig Halal, bro.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 8:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Bandcamp terminating accounts Reply with quote

lifeless wrote:
DIVERGENTSERIES wrote:

Censorship sucks, etc. etc., but if you are actually surprised at this, then our pure aryan race is bound for not glory. Hopefully stormfront will make good on their promise to create their fabled "1488Space" finally so we can tell those Zionists hipsters at bandcamp that the true white race will prevail and our Der Sturmer and Combat 88 cover bands will survive and for like free speech and stuff! Zeig Halal, bro.


"Someone ban this reeky rump-fed death token."


Now now. That's very intolerant of you.
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