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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:50 am    Post subject: Avant Garde? Reply with quote

What's going on with this label? I've been waiting on a trade parcel from them for half a year and they won't reply to my emails anymore. Did they turn into a rip off?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mammarella?
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Cosmic Devastator



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tried emailing them a few times about orders but never got any reply. stuff arrived eventually but they are not good communicators.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cosmic Devastator wrote:
Tried emailing them a few times about orders but never got any reply.


they seems more active in social media. a friend of mine sent a message, last week, through sound cave facebook page and got an almost instant reply.
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Acid Orgy



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just told about this thread to Roberto, you should have an e-mail already I think.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roberto just asked me to copy and paste this message since he doesn't have an account and is not interested in making one. Please note these are his own words I'm just copying by his request, I'm not taking any part on this diatribe since it's not my business.


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Hello Yosuke,
I got reported of this post... and I use this friend's account to be given the chance to public answer your infamy.
I sent you an email but as you made a public outing I have to answer here as well (sic).
You should be conscious that we are not at the "send me back my stamps / rip off!" era, and that an attack of this to a company can damage business and you have to take responsability for this or express your publixc apologies.
The story then, for all voyeurs interested (although i hope you have all a better life, in all honesty) as you well know it: you sent us months ago a multi-boxes shipment, one of these boxes never arrived here although your shipping company or the customs made a bad mistake by joining two boxes on the very same tracking number, making you apparently possible to believe that we got both though denied it, but we haven't in fact.
i then sent you our part of the trade, spending between 200 and 250€ in DHL bill...., not a rip-off thing i would say..., and taking the fact that some of your requested titles were not even available, we deducted (did not send) an equal part of titles that we never got from you (due to the box loss).
this is our RIP OFF .........
After years of trading with you (now over forever, obviously) the last thing i would expect is to be accused of theft for .. what? 30 vinyls? i can tell you we exist since 1994 and the moment when i will need to cash-in from a 30 LPs theft I will look for a job at Ikea

Roberto / Avantgarde music

PS: please do not reply here, I will not read after this, you know where to contact me

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

we stop trading with this guy, every time with every deal just some mambo jambo excuses, but he has time to comment, post on FB.
he has problems with shipping companies as always just the same story over and over again....
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow... Sounds like lots of excuses!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sunmoon wrote:
we stop trading with this guy, every time with every deal just some mambo jambo excuses, but he has time to comment, post on FB.
he has problems with shipping companies as always just the same story over and over again....


Quote:
“Boros! our last parcel was sent with a freight courier. it’s not my concern if in romania it takes 2 months to deliver. Posts on facebook are made by a guy of our staff that is paid for his job, not by myself. Ciao!"

Roberto

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool

This shit right here is why I never wanted to start a mailorder, a label or even sell my own stuff.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha indeed. I'm busy enough trying to track down my own parcels that don't reach me in time!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

surely in 2019 Avantgarde isn't in a position to have a person on the payroll for social media Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember times when Avantgarde/Obscure Plasma was setting trends in extreme music Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sztorm75 wrote:
I remember times when Avantgarde/Obscure Plasma was setting trends in extreme music Crying or Very sad


True. Many (most?) of those old once ground breaking labels have lost the run of themselves. Peaceville seem to exist solely to reissue stuff from 20 years ago. Earache have totally pissed over their legacy. Sad to witness. Avantgarde do have Earth and Pillars though. That is one great band.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

chunks wrote:
surely in 2019 Avantgarde isn't in a position to have a person on the payroll for social media Laughing


they have a physical store since 1996, the "paid people" take care of the whole store and business, not just facebook posts.


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This shit right here is why I never wanted to start a mailorder, a label


This.
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