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Unaerth



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 5:05 pm    Post subject: necros christos and BLUE SUGAR vocals Reply with quote

These guys seem to get a lot of love. I do enjoy the music and overall atmosphere; but, the vocals are borderline silly for me. I have grown to be more tolerant of various vocal styles over the years, but these have just a bit too much of that 'cookie monster' edge to them for me to embrace fully.
Check this track at the 3:37 mark
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbzhMmEATYM

Anybody else feeling this? Just can't dig them. These are what I refer to as "Blue Sugar" vocals.

I would love to hear examples of what you guys think are some of the worst/best "Blue Sugar" vocals out there!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Blue Sugar" sounds like a Blaxploitation film: a diabetic, racist-stompin', pussy-chompin' private detective who moonlights as a blues guitarist at the local whiskey bar.

That aside, the Necros Christos vocals never bothered me. But, I do know what you're talking about. Similar vocalists escape me at the moment.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mors Dalos Ra's vocals are important to me and Necros Christos as a whole.
Very fitting. Wouldn't change a single note.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HELLTHRASHER -l- wrote:
Mors Dalos Ra's vocals are important to me and Necros Christos as a whole.
Very fitting. Wouldn't change a single note.


+1 without doubt!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guido wrote:
HELLTHRASHER -l- wrote:
Mors Dalos Ra's vocals are important to me and Necros Christos as a whole.
Very fitting. Wouldn't change a single note.


+1 without doubt!

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Necrologue wrote:
"Blue Sugar" sounds like a Blaxploitation film: a diabetic, racist-stompin', pussy-chompin' private detective who moonlights as a blues guitarist at the local whiskey bar.


hehe , nice one!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For me "Blue Sugar" sounds very gay!
Necros Christos is perfect from every aspect!
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KŽjser ÷ccˇlt



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

a bit derailing but could someone recommend death metal with similar vocals as are in this song (around the 1.01 mark)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OD8dwXkWD2E
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I fully knew that I would probably be in the minority, at least in regards to Necros Christos. I fully respect everyone's appreciation for that particular band, and I certainly do not intend to bash them.
On a personal level, I cannot help it ...
Dark, occult, SERIOUS + sesame street just isn't going to work for me.

To the guy who posted the Six Feet Under clip ... that's hilarious. Thanks for joining in the good-natured fun.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excruciate - Passage of Life has vocals that sound a bit similar to Necros Christos. I love vocals like this. Murky and watery growls. MDR sounds fucking incredible on the Drowned demo.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HELLTHRASHER -l- wrote:
Mors Dalos Ra's vocals are important to me and Necros Christos as a whole.
Very fitting. Wouldn't change a single note.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love the vocals but I see your point, maybe Sonne Adam to an extent are similar.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the vocals are mediocre and the music while not bad just gets redundant quick. The atmosphere is fine, sure, but otherwise I don't get all the fuss.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I personally think Mors vox are great,thick and sludgey,like a layer of filth in a subterranian gutter.But cleaner to than most gut dragging styles which is a good point of difference.Suits the sombre mood of the music more than an all out assualt.

Question to the OP-are you a vocalist yourself?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

K_S Imprecator wrote:
I personally think Mors vox are great,thick and sludgey,like a layer of filth in a subterranian gutter.But cleaner to than most gut dragging styles which is a good point of difference.Suits the sombre mood of the music more than an all out assualt.

Question to the OP-are you a vocalist yourself?


Thanks for the comments/question.

I have done some vocal work on a few personal projects; but I would, in no way, consider myself a 'vocalist'.
I will fully admit that I am very picky about vocals. Sometimes I wish I could 'turn it off', as there are certain styles, or rather nuances of certain styles, that I just cannot warm up to. A good example would be the Excruciate vocals that an earlier poster mentioned being similar to Necros Christos. While they are similar, I don't have much trouble with the Excruciate vocals. They are not my favorite, but they do not detract from the music to my ear at all. I am really starting to think that it is the cadence, clarity, and perhaps the enunciation/accent that bugs me about Necros Christos. I certainly do not deny their 'power', depth, and 'sludgey' nature (as you put it).

I enjoy a great diversity of vocals. For some quick examples: everything from the cleans of bands like Solstice (UK), Solitude Aeturnus, Wrathblade, etc ... to Van Drunen-esque utterances like the recent Trenchrot, from early Gorgoroth ala Pest, to even the off-kilter styles of something like Ved Buens Ende. The unusual croaks from the likes of Avulsed and Demilich to the more 'traditional' growls of (very) early Sentenced, Funebre, Purtenance, etc. Love them all ...

I seem to have the hardest time with many clean styles, core 'tough-guy' yelling (can't even go there), and the aforementioned cookie monster variety death vocals.

Thanks for actually engaging in some conversation about this, it has helped me to pinpoint what it is that I find bothersome. In theory, that might actually help me be less annoyed by it.
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