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Trey Azagthoth vs. Doug Cerrito vs. Rob Vigna
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Trey Azagthoth vs. Doug Cerrito vs. Rob Vigna
Azagthoth
69%
 69%  [ 66 ]
Cerrito
5%
 5%  [ 5 ]
Vigna
25%
 25%  [ 24 ]
Total Votes : 95

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone defending any single aspect of that "Morbid Angel" album deserves to be dragged out into the street and beaten to death with pipes.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

blodhemn9 wrote:
Trey all the way! I can't think of another metal guitarist who has pushed the envelope as much as he has.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, that goes without saying ^ Laughing

I think of it like this : Iommi invented bread, Trey sliced it.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The discussion is about guitarists, so any mention of other aspects of the music (ie: drum sounds) is pointless.

I personally voted for Vigna, though Azagthoth is a very close second. While Azagthoth is clearly more influential, I believe that has more to do with the fact that Morbid Angel is more popular than Immolation. If you asked either one of them, I'm certain they'd sing the praises of each others ability. Vigna's leads are slightly more memorable to me, which is where he gets the edge.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure Iommi is a riff-God, but I wouldn't consider him half as inventive as Trey.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Farthest Star wrote:

It does make sense because what Immolation plays is less complementary with triggers than what MA are doing. Plus, Immolation's triggers on their latest are probably one of the worst triggers I've ever heard. Some moments on Kingdom of Conspiracy sound like they're straight from Dawn of Possession, but you can't listen to them because the sound of your roommate microwaving popcorn is too distracting.

but now we ended discussing what samples used for triggered kits.... Laughing

vociferous wrote:
The discussion is about guitarists, so any mention of other aspects of the music (ie: drum sounds) is pointless.

I personally voted for Vigna, though Azagthoth is a very close second. While Azagthoth is clearly more influential, I believe that has more to do with the fact that Morbid Angel is more popular than Immolation. If you asked either one of them, I'm certain they'd sing the praises of each others ability. Vigna's leads are slightly more memorable to me, which is where he gets the edge.

yep, kinda close expect that i didnt voted, but it feels like i want to vote for Trey, but rather vote Vigna... and i have strong feeling that he plays for "real" more then Trey
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just trust the poll... Trust the poll...
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cerrito barely belongs in that company. Whatever happened to him anyways? The last recording he was on was in 1999.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shaune Kelley deserves to be in this poll, but I won't go off-topic.

But for me, it's pretty much an impossible tie between Vigna and Azagthoth. No other two players have redefined death metal riffing in such a powerful, evocative way. Cerrito certainly has as well, but Suffo's material, twisted as it can be, has always seemed to fall more on the 'regular' side to me.

Dan wrote:
Cerrito barely belongs in that company. Whatever happened to him anyways? The last recording he was on was in 1999.


According to Erik Rutan, he's a mechanical engineer these days. I thought I heard somewhere that he had sparked an interest in playing death metal again, but I'm not sure how recently that was or how true it even is. Would be cool to see him return to the scene, though.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sinvocation wrote:
but Suffo's material, twisted as it can be, has always seemed to fall more on the 'regular' side to me.
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90's suffocation sounds regular to you?

Tell me what band in the 90's sounded like Pierced from within, Despise the sun?

All these clone Suffocation bands Decrepit Birth, Origin, Decapitated and other fake brutal corny shit started popping up in the 2000's. No one sounded like Suffocation in the 90's. THE INNOVATORS OF TRUE TECHNICAL BRUTAL DEATH METAL!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Necrosadist wrote:
Sinvocation wrote:
but Suffo's material, twisted as it can be, has always seemed to fall more on the 'regular' side to me.
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90's suffocation sounds regular to you?

Tell me what band in the 90's sounded like Pierced from within, Despise the sun?

All these clone Suffocation bands Decrepit Birth, Origin, Decapitated and other fake brutal corny shit started popping up in the 2000's. No one sounded like Suffocation in the 90's. THE INNOVATORS OF TRUE TECHNICAL BRUTAL DEATH METAL!!!


This is very true. The problem is the "NWN culture" doesn't like Technical Brutal Death Metal as a genre as much as what Morbid Angel pioneered or what Immolation does with their music, so you're not going to see Suffo given a lot of credit for innovation when most of the bands that followed them are thought of as retarded plastic brutal death bands. Suffocation are no less innovative and classic despite what they influenced.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dan wrote:
Cerrito barely belongs in that company. Whatever happened to him anyways? The last recording he was on was in 1999.


He also recorded vocals and guitar for Day Of Doom debut "Night Of Horror" in 2006..
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Necrosadist wrote:
Sinvocation wrote:
but Suffo's material, twisted as it can be, has always seemed to fall more on the 'regular' side to me.
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90's suffocation sounds regular to you?

Tell me what band in the 90's sounded like Pierced from within, Despise the sun?

All these clone Suffocation bands Decrepit Birth, Origin, Decapitated and other fake brutal corny shit started popping up in the 2000's. No one sounded like Suffocation in the 90's. THE INNOVATORS OF TRUE TECHNICAL BRUTAL DEATH METAL!!!


Don't forget CRYPTOPSY though
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Defending the last MA album and claiming Trey is more inventive than Iommi. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iommi has his own style, but he's still much more of a "traditional" player than Trey.

Used to watch this video over and over again before "I" dropped: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxFtMKZS29c (too bad the rest of the album didn't turn out like that.)
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