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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 5:03 pm    Post subject: Belmez - retarded or retarded genius? Reply with quote

I've always wondered why I kept the two CDs on Napalm because it's some of the most retarded music ever recorded. I can't tel if he's intentionally that bad at programming the drum machine or it's intentionally all over the place. I sometimes hear glimpses of retard genius shining through especially on the second album where it's almost black doomy. Anyone else into this odd band?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always saw this band name around but never checked em out. Will look up some stuff on youtube after Dr. Shrinker is finished (thanks again for putting this out!).
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

🤘🤘

Like watching the olimpics then changing the channel to special olimpics
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The goth/industrial chicks that dabbled in black metal I knew in the late 90's would've eaten this shit up.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i still have his first 3 cds myself. Odd stuff, but it never upset me.
Maybe it was being too drunk to hear how off it was.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

haven't listened in a coon's age, but i'd bet on retarded genius ie rainman... hung onto the demos strictly for the eminenz affiliation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_wjPAV-ZwE


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's one of the biggest laughingstocks of the German scene, like Mystic Circle or Eminenz.. I remember the demos being even worse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnAhDhQnf4o

I guess the ridiculousness of this scene with the Sächsisch accent is lost on you if you're not a native speaker, but trust me, it's hilarious.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Early Eminenz is great. I get the cheese factor but I still like them especially their second album
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems like the thread to fess up and say I've always really enjoyed Eisregen "Krebskolonie".
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This thread makes me want to break out Gloomy Grim.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember seeing the second album in a second hand shop for years. No one ever picked it up and whenever I browsed the CD sections the damn thing would always be there. Didn't know if I was missing out or not.

Checking some of the tracks on Youtube, it's not terribly bad. Home brews are often times weak in more ways than one, but can also intersect with strokes of genius sometimes (Melancolia's The Dark Reflection Of Your Soul...!).
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I feel this way about Trifixion "The first and the last commandment" album on Lethal. It's sorta retarded and sorta genius and I'm not sure if it's accidental or by design.

It'd be awesome if NWN did a vinyl pressing of Exorial. Would come out looking incredible imo.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zwerg was always of his very own mind but also always true to what he has created music wise. He was not a trendy kid that started doing some BM in the mid 90is when the whole Cradle Of Filth, Dimmu Borgir and so on trend came up. And he/his music can def not be compared to bullshit like Mystic Circus.
The Sarkophag Demos might be some of the absolut best Death Metal coming out of Germany. I always prefered Opacity to Belmez but well both can't be really compared to each other since he was doing Belmez all on his own.
The early Eminenz recordings up to Exorial was good stuff too. Especialy the demo stuff is worth to be checked out and not many bands still active can say they shared a stage with the true Mayhem in 1990.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 12:23 am    Post subject: Re: Belmez - retarded or retarded genius? Reply with quote

NWN PROD wrote:
I've always wondered why I kept the two CDs on Napalm because it's some of the most retarded music ever recorded. I can't tel if he's intentionally that bad at programming the drum machine or it's intentionally all over the place. I sometimes hear glimpses of retard genius shining through especially on the second album where it's almost black doomy. Anyone else into this odd band?
Yep I remember quit clearly hearing this one when it came out. Will never forget the classic titel of "Spaziergang mit Pestmaske". Thought it was fukking retarded then - think there are more retarded stuff out there now. Still not for me....
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BurstCommandTilWar wrote:
Zwerg was always of his very own mind but also always true to what he has created music wise. He was not a trendy kid that started doing some BM in the mid 90is when the whole Cradle Of Filth, Dimmu Borgir and so on trend came up. And he/his music can def not be compared to bullshit like Mystic Circus.
The Sarkophag Demos might be some of the absolut best Death Metal coming out of Germany. I always prefered Opacity to Belmez ...


Absolutely!

Opacity demo is killer. One of the best german demos in my opinion. The guy is in the scene for an eternity.
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