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Varg Vikernes arrested for planning a "massacre"
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Madhukapala



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kojiri wrote:

I think I'd rather spend a day in a stadium full of juggalos than an hour in a room full of Varg's "fans" and internet warriors...


Make it happen. And don't forget to take some ironic pictures.

Anyway, Varg is indeed a clown and a loud-mouth, and his fans tend to be starry-eyed, internet idealists, but it's still pretty obvious that the French authorities did abuse their power in this case. Letting your subcultural preferences blind you to this fact is kind of childish.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aspidis wrote:
ADK wrote:

Seriously, the biggest threat to Varg would be some mentally-ill fanboy probably, John Lennon/Dimebag Darrel style. Judging from the comments on his blogs (and how he exposes himself), I would say this isn't that unrealistic.

Couldn´t agree more. Too bad such an exposure when one got kids...


Also too bad when your wife supports your brainless behaviour instead of talking sense in such a situation. Anyway, these are luckily not my kids and he's a grown-up man. Sadly, he has lost both mental sanity and musical talent many years ago, so the cult of personality is all what is left.

Also even more luckily, I don't live in France so this all isn't really my concern. As for the "poor kids": Don't want to sound like Bob Geldof here, but there are kids with less perspectives on this planet, although I doubt nihilistic internet misanthrops are interested in their problems (me neither).
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why is it a crime for him to say what he wants?

True, many of us disagree with him. But it's possible to disagree with someone without demonizing them.

He should be able to talk about "les Juifs" all day if he wishes, in however many languages he wants! And his servers are in Russia, which has no laws to speak of, and Google owns his blogs, so he's harming no one there. It's not like his servers were in Israel assaulting Jews on a daily basis.

I speak up for this man's right -- that's right as in NATURAL RIGHTS, not the post-Revolutionary nonsense of political rights -- to speak his mind as he sees fit. What can it hurt? If it's crazy, and we all agree it's crazy, it will be a curiosity.

And if people are seduced to it, so what? They were either weak, or there's some truth to it. The only way to sort the gold from the shit is to let it all plop out there on the table, for inspection and measurement.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know exaclty how the French law is worded, but I'm guessing that it doesn't matter where his servers are located or where the blog provider is incorporated.

Vikernes was presumably sitting in front of a computer in France when he typed those articles and sent them off to the server. Presumably, the French authorities have done enough homework to establish this. It is sort of like making kiddie porn in one country and then immediately shipping it off to another. It doesn't matter so much where it is actually located, when the investigation is into where it was made.

Of course, whether the content of his speech should be censored is an entirely different issue.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DTBRex wrote:
...the biggest threat to Varg is still Varg himself...


A thousand times this. The man absolutely cannot help himself.

He seems to be a great dad who loves his kids. They spend tons of time together, they go camping, they paint Games Workshop models, etc. Good stuff. But he's pathologically drawn to the spotlight in a way that jeopardizes his ability to continue raising them.

He seems to be enjoying his freedom and is building a life for himself post-prison, but he cannot resist breaking the laws (unjust though they may be) of his adopted country.

He pretty much can't live in Norway due to the restitution he owes the state, yet his behavior in France puts him in very real danger of deportation.

He has political ideas he'd like to advance and popularize, but constantly discredits them by linking them to dumb ideas about human origins or by blaming things like train derailments on the Jews.

He maintains a high profile despite his constant risk of reincarceration, deportation, and losing his kids, and then goes and buys a bunch of guns. It doesn't matter that they were almost certainly for legitimate outdoor pursuits; guys in his situation can't do the things guys who haven't murdered people and who don't constantly and publicly name the Jew get to do.

The man is incompetent and needs a grown up to manage his affairs.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He's had his day in court:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24556167?SThisFB


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a crowd, 100% Aryan support!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Odin, Thyr and Frey was at his side.
were was the Metal God ??
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stalinorgel wrote:
What a crowd, 100% Aryan support!

Laughing I knew this would happen (both the embarrassing pic-scenery and your to the point comment)

köstlich!


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hehe, cheers!

A picture says more than thousand words, didn't even read the link.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fanboys will be fanboys...
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Die Geister, die ich rief...
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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caption: Controversial artist Varg Vikernes greets his moroccan, russian, turkmenian and southern-french heavy metal supporters after the trial. Vikernes: "Good to see them homies fighting for justice."
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont' see any blond hair over there, but... is something!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stalinorgel wrote:
Die Geister, die ich rief...


Could be worse:


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