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Your fucking record isn't worth a million you thick cunt...
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.aske



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GoldenBull wrote:
Everyone wants the best possible deal when buying and the most possible money when selling. I think anyone denying those two basic ideas is probably either lying or somewhat unique among most human beings.


A great example, when people deny this, is mentioning that they tried to receive the highest possible pay rate when negotiating their salary. They tried to sell their labor for as much as possible - it's the same concept.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm moving soon, so I've been getting ready to sell a bunch of shit. While checking Amazon to see what some of my old Genesis games go for I noticed a lot of people selling things at absolutely insane prices. Like $1000 for a game that regularly sells for $5. Or $900 for a used book that is still in print and sells new for $15.

I don't understand this strategy. I figure they are either waiting for a super rich guy who drunkenly scours Amazon at 4am, or the "book" comes with a brick of weed.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are waiting for Chinese businessmen to embrace vintage gaming and used books.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Piotr Sargnagel wrote:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n3LL338aGA

Laughing


Ha!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nemesis wrote:
DSS wrote:


I think this has been discussed before and there's no point in getting your blood pressure up. It is what it is, eBay "destroyed" the fun in buying/selling and trading. Even most of the second hand music stores have overpriced records because of eBay.
truth carved in flesh right here !



+1. you know shit hit the fan when shops don't even know/care what they have in their hands and have to lean on sites such as popsike, etc to "determine an appropriate price" for a particular item because they can't just figure out what they want for an item in the first place, whether pile of shit, hype item, or whatever



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Not necessarily. There are many items in my collection I would gladly sell for significantly more than what the market dictates they are worth. At the same time, I would rather keep them for what they regularly/typically sell for. Case in point: the Blasphemy - F.A.O.D. CD that someone recently posted had sold for 80 Euros at a local record store. I would sell mine for that. I probably wouldn't sell it for $30, or whatever MOST people think it's worth.

On the other hand, if I offered that same CD for sale for 80 Euros and someone made an offer for $30, I wouldn't make a point to ridicule him.



then I come back to my original point... if its that important to have multiple formats/copies of any given item, and you are not overly concerned about selling it, then why even list the item(s) in the first place? seems pretty black and white to me, but I may be a special case here... either you want to sell, or you don't. too many people have this attitude of "yeah I might sell it, if someone names the right price" all the while you are hoarding a release, possibly multiple copies at that, and there are plenty of folks out there who would love to own just one copy merely for the sake of actually listening to the fucker. you know, those weird types that actually listen to music and don't just hoard it for no purpose.

of course with "most" people, literally EVERYTHING has a price in the end, so maybe there should be a more grey area site to cater to this mentality. instead of setting any sort of prices, you can just list your items up and call the site "make me an offer I cant refuse". wait, I probably shouldn't have shared this idea as I might be able to get rich off such a scheme, thus providing additional funds to buy a legit copy of FOAD. the mercedes benz edition of FOAD at that Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Piotr Sargnagel wrote:
GoldenBull wrote:
Everyone wants the best possible deal when buying and the most possible money when selling.


Precisely.

Also:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n3LL338aGA

Laughing



GoldenBull helped me out with in the sign of evil for a very reasonable price of which I am eternally grateful, and guess what?? I have no plans of flipping for profit, or selling in general, so yeah, I guess these rare breeds do still exist in the cracks of society Very Happy

and on that note, the link has inspired me to que up life of brian dvd. cheers!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Watch the trilogy and then all of Flying Circus and then Fawlty Towers and then A Fish called Wanda and all the other Gilliam movies.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fuck, now I have to watch Brazil.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kojiri wrote:
But seriously this thread has turned into "Waaaaah, why don't I make more money?"


Haha I just want a smooth transaction.... guy buys 2 records from me with make an offer, for less cash. Then complains about the shipping, and asks how much it will be if he only buys one.... I'm like you'll pay for both, because you bought both, cunt!!

I only worded it slightly more pleasantly.....
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I have a decent job with a good income so it's not the money as such. I don't care how much someone makes, it's the principle of the thing at the end. I won't pay some cocksmoker €400 for his copy of Show No Mercy just because thats what he wants for it. I'm not a mug and you can't be too good with money if that's how you handle your finances.

But it's the attitudes of some people that is starting to do my head in. Half these fuckers aren't even into Metal anymore but they're acting like some kind of specialist. Telling me how RARE and SPECIAL their copy of Schizophrenia is and then giving me a barrage of insults when I pass. Get fucked.These are people too that contact me after seeing my want list on discogs or on this forum. There's a particular Discogs seller who really annoys the shit out of me whose active on this forum, hoping he pops his head in here. He contacts me with his overpriced crap and thinks I'm a fucking idiot for not getting how rare his shit is despite him selling his records for two or three times the price as the other sellers on discogs.

Re people offering eBay and popsike links to sellers. I do this and people do it to me and if it's done in the right way, it's fine. If I make someone an offer I usually offer above average or the top price and I send them a link to show what I'm basing the offer on. People have done that to be, especially here on this forum and that's fine. They/I can take it or leave it. No skin off my nose.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a guy selling a many-decades old record player on the local Finnish version of eBay for about 300 EUR too much. I showed the guy multiple instances where it could be had cheaper and that I'd gladly pay the going rate and come pick it up.

He responded saying FUCK YOU and a few other things.

I bought the same player from Germany for 300 EUR less. I also checked back a year later out of curiosity, and his was still listed at the same price.

Point of story: there are idiots everywhere.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blood Music wrote:
There was a guy selling a many-decades old record player on the local Finnish version of eBay for about 300 EUR too much. I showed the guy multiple instances where it could be had cheaper and that I'd gladly pay the going rate and come pick it up.

He responded saying FUCK YOU and a few other things.

I bought the same player from Germany for 300 EUR less. I also checked back a year later out of curiosity, and his was still listed at the same price.

Point of story: there are idiots everywhere.


Good story and agreed. They are the Roy Necroharmonics and Blake Judd's of the world. Lax and accommodating social programs and 1st world living conditions allow them to infect the rest of us.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lordoftherim wrote:

then I come back to my original point... if its that important to have multiple formats/copies of any given item, and you are not overly concerned about selling it, then why even list the item(s) in the first place? seems pretty black and white to me, but I may be a special case here... either you want to sell, or you don't. too many people have this attitude of "yeah I might sell it, if someone names the right price" all the while you are hoarding a release, possibly multiple copies at that, and there are plenty of folks out there who would love to own just one copy merely for the sake of actually listening to the fucker. you know, those weird types that actually listen to music and don't just hoard it for no purpose.


That was just one example that came to mind because someone posted about how a copy sold for that much recently. It could have just as easily been another record or CD that I only have one copy of on a single format (like the Haxan DLP that is apparently selling for ridiculous prices), but I guess it's easy to just assume that it must be the case that someone is hoarding multiple copies of whatever it is they're selling and can therefore name their price. It would seem more logical to me that the people who are offering records/CDs for above-market prices only have one copy, and therefore are trying to command top dollar for it in order to "mitigate their loss."
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DSS wrote:
I will most likely not sell for a "reasonable" price any more for two reasons.

#1. I'm always fair and easy to negotiate with but it's never the other way around. 90% of the people that I want to buy from send me eBay and popsike links to show me how much their precious record sells for. Even when it comes to trades people do the same; "look my LP sells for more money than your LP sells for, you should throw in something extra".

#2. I've sold a few items for a lower price only to see the person flip it on eBay a couple weeks later for triple the price.

I think this has been discussed before and there's no point in getting your blood pressure up. It is what it is, eBay "destroyed" the fun in buying/selling and trading. Even most of the second hand music stores have overpriced records because of eBay.


same here. tired about this. even when you sell at "normal" prices someone want it cheaper and i have had it too often that the guys who cried about the price afterwards sell it for fucking more. same with freebies. had thrown in a lot in the trades/selling, but don't think its funny to see these freebies afterwards to sell. they where fucking gifts, not extra selling points.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got Effigy Of The Forgotten LP on my Discogs want list.. every week or so I get a notification of one for sale... every time it's like €90 haha...

"Your fucking record isn't worth that you thick cunt(s)..."
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