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Mz412



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hate it too. I wanna buy stuff, but see no sense to pay ebay
prices or such. Don't forgett its just 2.Hand Stuff.

I'll got some really Annoying/Funny answers of some offers.
they were Pricelike absolut Correct for actual Trade Prices but
i have just the feeling that some sellers think they have GOld
or Diamond CD/LP there Laughing

If someone is so stupid and pay so much money for some records,
its his own Problem, not mine. So i think it isn't standart for all
Prcies, what one Idiot wanna pay for it. But today it is so that
one Person pay much money and all sellers wanna also have this
summ Crying or Very sad

If you wanna see "good" prices:

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RARE ABSURD<<<<< please click me


If someone use this prices as standart....
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If a cd is rare and sought after, why should a seller accept to leave it for 15 euros? It's stupid ...

When I sell my used car, I check a second hand cars price guide ... coz I wanna sell it its right price.

I admit that some prices on eBay are insane ... but if I've something for sale, I'll be happy to get an insane price for a cd or lp ...
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

off topic...

But if a valuable ($50+) record has a pretty consistent "buy now" price on ebay, does that mean the record is just plain worth that price and readily available, or is the simple fact that it is even available to "buy Now" mean that it is not that hard to find for a reasonable price on the street?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just looked at popsike.com, and I find it interesting the different prices ranges a record will sell for at different time. For example, Black Hole's "Land of Mystery" LP sold for $52 at one time and then close to $300 another.

I tell people to make offers. Mostly because most of the time I just don't know or care too much what something is worse. What's wrong with wanting to give somebody something for the price they want to pay? Refusing offers is another story I guess, but there has been times I said "make me an offer" and the offers I got were just downright laughable. I hate greedy people who want more than what something is worse, but I also hate cheap jews that want something for nothing.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 3:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hate this kind of behaviour
That's just a way to have good conscience because you've never sold anything on ebay . I think ebay is really more honest :

The item is here
you bid
the guy who have more money got the item .

but this crap is like :

60 euros ?
No i want more ...

It's humilliation , it's about feeling the power you have on somebody
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Albin wrote:
It's humilliation , it's about feeling the power you have on somebody


Rolling Eyes

It's about getting the right price for something! Nothing else ... why should I accept to sell a true gemm for a ridiculous price? Just to avoid giving you the impression I've power on you? Come on, that's pure cheap Jewish reasoning!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Albin wrote:

...It's humilliation , it's about feeling the power you have on somebody


Ok, I'm really off topic here but this made me smile a wee bit.
You don't really feel that way now, do you? Humiliation? power
you have over somebody? We are talking about records, right?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
It's humilliation , it's about feeling the power you have on somebody


Laughing

Quite funny.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 4:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Face Fate Records wrote:
If a cd is rare and sought after, why should a seller accept to leave it for 15 euros? It's stupid ...

When I sell my used car, I check a second hand cars price guide ... coz I wanna sell it its right price.

I admit that some prices on eBay are insane ... but if I've something for sale, I'll be happy to get an insane price for a cd or lp ...


He mustn't sell this for 15 euros or such, but i think it cost less
nerves if he said from beginning that he want XX for this and for
that....
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mz412 wrote:
Face Fate Records wrote:
If a cd is rare and sought after, why should a seller accept to leave it for 15 euros? It's stupid ...

When I sell my used car, I check a second hand cars price guide ... coz I wanna sell it its right price.

I admit that some prices on eBay are insane ... but if I've something for sale, I'll be happy to get an insane price for a cd or lp ...


He mustn't sell this for 15 euros or such, but i think it cost less
nerves if he said from beginning that he want XX for this and for
that....


Man, sometimes you know you've a rare Lp in your hand but don't know how rare it is so you can't determine a price ... in this case, it's way easier to ask for offers! don't you think?

I can't believe reading posts criticizing people who wants to get the best amount of money for stuff they're selling ... we're not talking about non profit organizations, we're talking about selling LP's, aren't we!

Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Endless Morbidity wrote:
I just looked at popsike.com, and I find it interesting the different prices ranges a record will sell for at different time. For example, Black Hole's "Land of Mystery" LP sold for $52 at one time and then close to $300 another.


That $52 might be mine, as I bought it in early 2004 for 35 Euros on ebay.de from an indie-rock seller, who had filed it under Alternative. I was the only bidder and got it with my one and only bid.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Face Fate Records wrote:

It's about getting the right price for something! Nothing else ... why should I accept to sell a true gemm for a ridiculous price?... Come on, that's pure cheap Jewish reasoning!


This is high comedy. You have to see how much the last sentence describes all the rest of it. Looks like you and the Jews have something in common after all.

Back to the subject at hand - I don't care too much if people are asking for offers, though it makes my life easier if they'll just state a price. What I do really despise though is any trade or sell list that says "make me an offer" and also "no reply - no interest." You can't dredge up enough courtesy to just respond to a PM and say "No thanks" or maybe give an idea what you really want for it? Fuck you then, you don't get any of my money or anything I'm willing to trade. Life is short and difficult enough without adding in asshole behavior like that. And that's the true power trip there - getting people to PM you repeatedly and beg. When I see this on a tradelist, I move on.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Face Fate Records wrote:
Mz412 wrote:
Face Fate Records wrote:
If a cd is rare and sought after, why should a seller accept to leave it for 15 euros? It's stupid ...

When I sell my used car, I check a second hand cars price guide ... coz I wanna sell it its right price.

I admit that some prices on eBay are insane ... but if I've something for sale, I'll be happy to get an insane price for a cd or lp ...


He mustn't sell this for 15 euros or such, but i think it cost less
nerves if he said from beginning that he want XX for this and for
that....


Man, sometimes you know you've a rare Lp in your hand but don't know how rare it is so you can't determine a price ... in this case, it's way easier to ask for offers! don't you think?

I can't believe reading posts criticizing people who wants to get the best amount of money for stuff they're selling ... we're not talking about non profit organizations, we're talking about selling LP's, aren't we!

Rolling Eyes


If so, why not cleary for Highest Price?

But my Critic is more to the Lists with Tons of Normal CD Stuff Wink

If someone has such a rare LP, it went to Ebay Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think it comes down to is that these sellers really don't want to part w/their items. Otherwise they'd be on ebay w/a reserve price.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IronBloodBlasphemy wrote:
i think it comes down to is that these sellers really don't want to part w/their items. Otherwise they'd be on ebay w/a reserve price.


Bullshit. It comes down to the buyer "not having the nerves" or wanting
to have everything the "easy way". Record collectors are pretentious assholes and every coin has two sides.
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