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TEKWRX



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:54 am    Post subject: Shipping a record to Italy. Safe? Reply with quote

I just sold a record on Discogs. The buyer is in Italy. The record was $20, I charged him $15 for shipping. He paid via Paypal pretty quick.

I'm getting nervous now because while I was browsing eBay I noticed a few sellers stating that they will only ship to Italy registered mail, no exceptions. Does Italy have a history of people claiming they didn't get the record? I just checked the buyer on Discogs, and he has no feedback and just registered on the site Jan. 8th.

How much does it cost to ship a record registered to Italy? Is there any other proof I can give Paypal if he opens a claim?

Should I just forget it and refund his payment and cancel the transaction?

EDIT: It wasn't a metal record if it matters. It was a trance record from my old DJing days. Is one scene more shady then another?
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Xapas



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take a pic of the package at the post office with stamps and ready to go.....
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TEKWRX



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xapas wrote:
Take a pic of the package at the post office with stamps and ready to go.....


Is that legit for Paypal claims? Has that worked before?
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triskelion



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Italy has the shittiest postal service in Europa !
I've lost 3-4 packages.
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Kojiri



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd feel safer shipping something to South America or Greece than to Italy. From my experience.
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toxicbreed



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shipped regular and registered before, never had problems so far. if you ship registered with a tracking number, you'll definitely be on the safer side
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iron tyrant



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure, we're all thieves over here, didn't you know?
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bitewerks



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have had packages to Italy take longer than usual (to the rest of the EU) but never lost. Italians seem to know their PO is sloooow. Oddly enough, the last few I've sent over there, have made it pretty quickly. Even they were surprised.
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darkdescentrecords



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honestly for all the horror stories I've heard of over the years, I've had zero issues with customers/labels getting their parcels in Italy and I've shipped quite a few over there. Hopefully this continues but I wouldn't believe everything you read.
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UlvhedinGrom



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No problems ever. Always fast, contrary to German post. Only Argentina is slower for me...
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Mikael



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess all this is about luck, I have bad experiences with Italy, some have bad experiences with Germany etc. Overall ordering from Europe is quite safe, but if the person you deal with seems even a bit shady, it's more likely that he's the reason for "lost packages" than a postal service of the country he's living in.
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UlvhedinGrom



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

True.
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boca



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's all about anlighment of stars and planets in the moment when you ship your record. Laughing

...and yeah don't ship it when it's a full moon.
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K-mart



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I shipprd to Italy last month First Class,a Discogs sale...no problems,the buyer just left feedback a couple days ago.
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DSS



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been buying, selling and trading for over 20 years now and I never had any problems with parcels "not arriving" until eBay came along. I honestly think that those who bought from me on eBay and claimed that their parcel never arrived when I shipped it by unregistered mail simply are rip-offs. I've shipped to Italy, Greece, Brazil and even Russia without registration and the parcels always arrived. Some would take a long time to reach their destination but they always arrived.

Bottom line is, if you are selling on eBay (or Discogs - although I don't know how their system works) always ship by registered mail. If someone requests unregistered mail to save on shipping and they claim that "I never had problems receiving parcels so no need to registered" then ask them to send you the payment as a gift.
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