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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gruwel wrote:
What I'm wondering is how durable 3d-printed records are compared to higher grammage vinyl.


It's not even really an issue right now since I'm sure these aren't really enjoyable to listen to anyways. Anything like this is going to be pretty crappy while people experiment, but the fact that it actually works at all is what is impressive.

I know the technology has been around for a while, but we also had cell phones in the 80's. The technology will continue to improve, and it's uses will change as the parameters of what it can do change. These things can produce delicate and specialized components now, and with access to a 3D printer and the right files, you'll be able to easily obtain many otherwise hard to obtain parts and equipment.

This also kind of makes the whole intellectual property issue about more than movies, music and similar things. Now you'll be able to copy physical objects, upload them online, and have people download them and print them out. Back to records, at some point you will probably be able to print out a pirated vinyl record, and not just MP3's.

Then there's the whole being able to print out a gun thing.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saevus wrote:
Then there's the whole being able to print out a gun thing.

Yes.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saevus wrote:
Gruwel wrote:
What I'm wondering is how durable 3d-printed records are compared to higher grammage vinyl.


It's not even really an issue right now since I'm sure these aren't really enjoyable to listen to anyways. Anything like this is going to be pretty crappy while people experiment, but the fact that it actually works at all is what is impressive.

I know the technology has been around for a while, but we also had cell phones in the 80's. The technology will continue to improve, and it's uses will change as the parameters of what it can do change. These things can produce delicate and specialized components now, and with access to a 3D printer and the right files, you'll be able to easily obtain many otherwise hard to obtain parts and equipment.

This also kind of makes the whole intellectual property issue about more than movies, music and similar things. Now you'll be able to copy physical objects, upload them online, and have people download them and print them out. Back to records, at some point you will probably be able to print out a pirated vinyl record, and not just MP3's.

Then there's the whole being able to print out a gun thing.

Haha, can you imagine the whole music pirating discussion over and over again but this time for freaking cars, coffee machines and whatnot? "It's not stealing because I'm not taking away the original product!"

That said, yes, 3D printing is a highly impressive development. I ordered a necklace for a friend from shapeways a while ago (a website where you can upload 3D designs and have them printed in a number of materials) and it was made from some sort of metal/bronze and the quality was surprisingly high. Makes me wonder what the future holds.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gruwel wrote:

Makes me wonder what the future holds.


You ever watch Star Trek and that machine that just makes shit at request.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This thread is probably the answer to those Satyricon bootleg vinyls, the Wongraven bootleg, and most certainly that shitty Thorns bootleg I bought a few years prior to the finally superior real version.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

boogs wrote:
you can buy cutting lathes for private use since years. Obviously they aren't cheap, the cheapest one is around $5000 but you will be able to cut your own records at a very high standard. They are for cutting blank vinyl records, not lacquer foils.
There were also the rek-o-cut lathes in the US back in the 60s/70s and other portable lathes that you can obtain for relatively little money nowadays but obviously they would need a major overhaul and constant maintenance.
You can also get a proper vinyl record cut for about $30.


Never seen anything cut records for $30. Lathe cuts i've wanted to try, but the barrier cost of entry and the maintenance cost (new needles) kept me out of this thing. The few people who do offer lathe cut records also are a bit pricey because of the time it takes to make them. A run of 50-100 almost runs into the territory of pressing flexis through pirates press or even further your own vinyl record from a plant for 300-500 copies) that it seems better to go those routes unless you have some record where a lathe cut is more beneficial.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not metal, but here's a crazy make your own record idea made by Shout Out Louds. It's negative stamper on which you can make your own record from ice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9Q88uTdgWY
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

May have already been mentioned but with the 3-D printer you can also print a GUN!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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May have already been mentioned but with the 3-D printer you can also print a GUN!


Doesn't this thing just print on paper? What good would a paper gun be?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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bitewerks wrote:
May have already been mentioned but with the 3-D printer you can also print a GUN!


Doesn't this thing just print on paper? What good would a paper gun be?

Not paper. Check out the links.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bitewerks wrote:
... 3-D printer...


Blutkvlt wrote:
Doesn't this thing just print on paper?...


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chalk it up to good ol' Americunt laziness on my part. Not to derail the thread, but the possibility of printing a gun made of some kind of non-metallic polymer makes me doubt that this will ever see the civilian market except for in an extremely neutered form.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Descension wrote:

Doesn't this thing just print on paper? What good would a paper gun be?


About as good as a solid block of material, in the 3D shape of a gun.

(It is doubtful this 3D printer makes moving internal functioning parts)
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Info on the rifle: http://defdist.tumblr.com/

I read something about a 3-D printer manufactor who refused to sell their equipment to someone with plans to make a handgun or they called the guy after selling/delivering to him & sent guys to retrieve it- it was in the contract that they could do that but I can't find the link at the moment.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Without the chemical reaction of gun powerder, a gun is just a block of heavy metal.

Everyone should have a gun, they just need to make bullets harder to get. Razz
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