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Prague Death Mass vol.II 12.-13.7.2013
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stalinorgel wrote:
Forget all that copycat-crap (the equivalent to drink some normal Pastis Pernod instead, same effect), if you want to drink REAL Absinthe, come to Switzerland. Of course you wont get the real deal in a hipster-bar, but with some connections and good manners (!) you can ask a local farmer in the Jurassian mountains, they still brew illegal stuff clandestinely.

But be sure to have one leg still working to "brake" if things start to turn around you.


please tell me how is homemade absinth more real, is it something like bedroom black metal projects being more real?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, if you're familiar with the ORIGINS and HISTORY of Absinthe, your question should be obsolete. But you're obviously not, so please do your homework first.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stalinorgel wrote:
Well, if you're familiar with the ORIGINS and HISTORY of Absinthe, your question should be obsolete. But you're obviously not, so please do your homework first.


I see, so according to this logic, the only real beer is the mushy soup from the Middle Ages, right?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beer is far older, even the Egypts had it already. Plus beer is nothing really regional, it's worldwide since centuries and every country has its own specific brand. Absinthe on the other hand is a traditional recipe strongly connected to its roots (like the Greek Ouzo or the Turkish Raki), you can't compare this. Or do you think an Irish or Scot would accept a Swiss or Czech Whiskey? Or do you rank Pizza Hut on the same level like a true Italian Calzone?

Whatever, of course since its now legal to brew "censored" Absinthe all over the EU, everyone can label it with that tag. You can also buy Emmentaler cheese in NY, but that's just because it's allowed to call it that way, it has nothing to do with the true stuff.

Again: The real deal - the illegal, hallucinogene Absinthe that became "cult" in the last few centuries among intellectuals - is only brewed like the way it should be in its homebase Val de Travers these days. Everywhere else you have restrictions and surely not the proper "know-how" to do it correctly.

You can get the allowed version with less alcohol and no Thujon everywhere, but that's not the original, sorry to tell you so.

Sorry for this off-topic, but my patriotic feelings were alerted. No insult to Prague at all, it has a beautiful morbid architecture, a lot of history & culture, delicious local liquors & food plus extremely good looking women, but for Absinthe it's surely not the place to be.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stalinorgel wrote:
Beer is far older, even the Egypts had it already. Wink

Whatever, of course since its now legal to brew "censored" Absinthe all over the EU, everyone can label it with that tag. You can also buy Emmentaler cheese in NY, but that's just it's allowed to call it that way, it has nothing to do with the true stuff.

Again: The real deal - the illegal, hallucinogene Absinthe that became "cult" in the last few centuries among intellectuals - is only brewed like the way it should be in its homebase these days. Everywhere else you have restrictions and surely not the proper "know-how" to do it correctly.

You can get the allowed version with less alcohol and no Thujon everywhere, but that's not the original, sorry to tell you so.


yeah I know, I like the theory which assumes that beer was the actual reason for mankind to end the hunter-gatherers era. or the part of epic of Gilgamesh where the savage Enkidu is humanized through drinking of beer..

nevertheless if you're fan of that stupid hallucinogene theory, then we have nothing to discuss. let me just remind for others, that chemical analysis of the of the archived preban absinthes show us that the thujone levels weren't high, which is absolutely logical, because you just can't achieve toxic levels with natural fermentation, producing some hallucinogene absinth would require advacend 20th century technology while the real deal absinth is all natural (because of it's old origin) of corpse.

I'm not sure what your "censorship" is supposed to mean, but the only official EU-law restriction is 35mg/l of thujone. however this is classic example of unneeded legislation that does not originate in the concern about consumers health. it's easy to reach the true reasons for those interested. surviving preban absinths didn't never have more than 48mg/l because it was impossible to produce it naturally. today some maker's absinths exceed 110mg/l but even if you had 500mg/l, the required amount of such a drink consumed to have hallucinations would still be counted in tens of litres. sorry to tell you so.

http://www.oxygenee.com/absinthe-faq/feeverte.html

as for the know-how, a lot of preban era recipes survived and some are used today to produce the real stuff as the forementioned St. Antoine does and countless others. so one more time, "illegal hallucinogene Absinthe that became cult" did never exist and there's no evidence of it. also absinth was en masse popular drink and not an intelectual issue.
still you're right that almost all commercial absinth is false but I explained that in the first post.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

THE BEER

Czech republic is known for it's good and cheap beer (also for originating the Pilsner type lager) but getting good beer ain't matter-of-course and actually requires certain effort. Here a few tips to ensure you are served good beer, because as in every other developed country, over 90% of the market is controled by big brands with shitty or mediocre beers. All big brands in Czech rep (excluding Budweiser Budvar) are owned by multinational corporations like Heinekena or SABMiller. Under their lead the drink doesn't have nothing in common with real beer and it's original nature anymore, it's because using of HGB and other quality degrading methods, cheap substitutes instead of real ingredients and so on. So with these brands you always end up getting uniformed "euro-type" "lager" with no character. Add poor care provided by the distributors and pub owners and that explains why that what ends in your glass is edible only on rare occasions.

So first and foremost - beware of corporate bullshit like Gambrinus, Staropramen or Kozel. It's sad but the most metal looking beer (Kozel means he-goat and has nice archgoat on the cover) is terrible shit. It's absolutely necessary to not ever buy this and other likewise crap.

places for beer connoisseurs

There are basicly three possibilities to make sure you will be served great beer. Here are three great pubs which have many beers from local breweries daily and are run or owned by beer connoisseurs and are the right places for beer connoisseurs:

http://www.praguebeergarden.com/news/post/zubaty-pes-second-best-pub (15 regularly changing beers on tap, 5 or 6 of which are foreign beers that aren't usually spotted on tap in Cech rep, BrewDog beers and others)
http://www.praguebeergarden.com/pubs/post/zly-casy (48 beers on tap!)
http://www.praguebeergarden.com/pubs/post/pivovarsky-klub (don't eat here, overpriced second-rate food; has a tendency to be little bit posh for no reason but the beer is treated great)

the world famous pillsner urquell

Pillsner Urquell is the original pilsner type beer first produced in 1842. If you have ever been to Czech rep and if you are a true Pilsner Urquell fan, you already know that there are plenty of places around Prague serving mediocre Pilsner Urquell on tap. The brand was sold to multinational corporation and nowadays it's only a shadow of the original stuff. But in some classic pubs, they usually serve it in great way and take care of the beer so it still tastes excellent in them but don't expect this quality elsewhere. They also say that these (and few others) get premium quality shit from the brewery and I think it would make some sense but who knows.

These pubs may not be the top tourist attractions but for a czech tourist who also loves good beer and enjoy sitting in legendary (but not the best managed and shit) pub, these are the ones to go.

http://www.praguebeergarden.com/pubs/post/u-zlateho-tygra (small one, you would ahve to wait in front of the door for opening, otherwise you won't sit)
http://www.praguebeergarden.com/pubs/post/jelinkova-plzenska-pivnice
http://www.praguebeergarden.com/pubs/post/u-pinkasu (don't eat here)
http://www.restauraceuvejvodu.cz/?page=home&lang=EN


NOTICE: These are my choices from a few places that serve Pilsner Urquell which is worthy of its name of this original list:

http://www.praguebeergarden.com/news/post/top-10-pilsner-urquell-pubs-prague

further notice: In some places they fuck up with customers, the kitchen sucks, the staff sucks..that's the heritage of socialism, it's all round the Czech rep, so be ready to face shit like this even in more expensive places.

craft beer elitism

The last and lots-of-fun-including way to get great czech type of beer is to go to the mini breweries w/ their own pubs. They all made the pale lager type (usually pilsner type) - the original and quality czech beer and some special stuff like weizens, IPAs and else. There many of good breweries like this around Prague and in Prague itself, I'll just write you down some names you shoudn't miss: Sousedský pivovar Bašta (Prague), Jihoměstský pivovar (Prague), Klášterní pivovar Strahov (Prague), Pivovarská krčma Chýně, Pivovar Kácov, Únětický pivovar. all of them should have dedicated articles at hte praguebeergarden website. I didn't read the articles but they bear basic info in english.

good brands from bigger breweries in the czech way: Poutník, Polička, Bernard, Svijany, Kout... but as always depends on the care provided by the pub and most of pubs just can't care properly / don't give a shit..

for what I know Tom Coroner himself is a beer geek and recommends these two I donn't know

http://www.praguebeermuseum.com/en
http://lesmoules.cz/en/ (expensive but great belgians beers)

Zlý časy and Klášterní pivovar Strahov from the aforementioned. the first is off the centre but worth visit and the second one serves "perfect beer (amber/dark lager, wheat, IPA), very close to Prague castle!"
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The best aspect of Czech beer is the low level of carbonic acid. I've never had a hang-over from Czech pilsner while I spend a few days a year dying in my sofa from Belgian pils.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

call_from_stars wrote:
THE BEER

The last and lots-of-fun-including way to get great czech type of beer is to go to the mini breweries w/ their own pubs. They all made the pale lager type (usually pilsner type) - the original and quality czech beer and some special stuff like weizens, IPAs and else. There many of good breweries like this around Prague and in Prague itself, I'll just write you down some names you shoudn't miss: Sousedský pivovar Bašta (Prague), Jihoměstský pivovar (Prague), Klášterní pivovar Strahov (Prague), Pivovarská krčma Chýně, Pivovar Kácov, Únětický pivovar. all of them should have dedicated articles at hte praguebeergarden website. I didn't read the articles but they bear basic info in english.

good brands from bigger breweries in the czech way: Poutník, Polička, Bernard, Svijany, Kout... but as always depends on the care provided by the pub and most of pubs just can't care properly / don't give a shit..

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and Matuška!

http://www.praguebeergarden.com/beer/category/pivovar-matuska
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Humus wrote:
The best aspect of Czech beer is the low level of carbonic acid. I've never had a hang-over from Czech pilsner while I spend a few days a year dying in my sofa from Belgian pils.


Even some people whom I regard as intelligent don't seem to understand the hangover is because of alcohol and it's effect on the body and mind Cool

In Holland my mates who love your speciaalbier always say 'I always get a hangover from Dutch beer, and not from Belgian beer'...

You drink too much, you have a hangover. Period.

I just finished a pussybeer LaChoufee right now! Nice one, even my gf likes it

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chouffe is a unisex beer over here Wink

Just speaking from experience, had a few alcohol-marinated trips to Czech and never had a hang-over. Their beer is low on alcohol so that might make it better to digest.
Anyone of you going to Prague should be able to have a great time though, one of my favourite cities in Europe.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jonny wrote:

and Matuška!


yess, I totally forgot! these guys are supplying czech ministry of foreign affairs and a michelline star restaurant of some stupid fancy name (like it would mean anything). this is epitome of the word supreme.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From Kringa's facebook
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Kringa/382976008400581?fref=ts

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Since the Death Mass draws near, we will permit you a glimpse into our abyss:

We will bring about 40 shirts, grey & red/brown, 50 "promo" tapes of the TMD EP, the last few copies of the Cosmic Carnage demo, logo-patches, a handful of buttons and also a few tapes from projects, which are surrounding the spiritual vortex of our humble circle.

http://i.minus.com/jdutyodDWiR0R.jpg

Currently, we are about to lift our new man behind the drums into our unnamed spheres and do our best to prepare a worthy rite for Prague.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bought the e- ticket 1 month ago...wrote several mails, but i´ve never received any answer or the receipt/print version from the e- ticket...?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Info@shindy.cz

Did you try this e-mail?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes, the first mail i wrote to tickets@brutalassault.cz (led on the paypal receipt), next two mails i sent to info@shindy.cz, ok, now i will send it again- hope it works, thanks!
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