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Orpheus
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There is a clear and distinct difference between a band of non-racist or antiracist members and an anti-racist band. There is clearly no political agenda or message in their music. I'm quite certain that commie Rage Against the Machine fans are capable of listening to music that isnt exhorting them to "fight the powah" or whatever the fuck.
Not everything needs to be about politics, in fact the less the better. When you politicise art, it is diminished. It loses abstract, ephemeral qualities and regresses to simple propaganda. |
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nileppez
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| Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Orpheus wrote: | | There is a clear and distinct difference between a band of non-racist or antiracist members and an anti-racist band. |
This. Fucking pisses me off when a band declares itself as "antirascist and antifascists", just to sound so perfectly politically correct. Too many people think that when you're not racist you're automatically a part of some antirascist idea or movement. |
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gromcrom
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To help band when interview by magazine, I come up with ready made quote to use:
"we are not the racist band, we just prefer german tanks to american ones"
"we against racism. but we have big interest on history.... especial german history"
"we only use theme of war (especial german side) because war is brutal and so is metal"
"we not racist, we only shave head because it keep clean more easy"
"we not racist, we have black man in band" (true for blasphemy, but deathspell omega and ancient recs bands could use too and who to know???)
"we use sample of hitler speech in old underground album to show ignorance of racism. believe in yourself not some ruler!!!!!! that is black metal! total individual!!!"
"we only use swastika for irony like sex pistols and punks did"
"we only joking with aryan anti-jew slogan, just to provoke and it worked! haha joke on you now. but we very sorry too for offence"
"we only use nazi image in past as proof freedom of expression - something possible not to do if nazi rules, so we not nazi"
"we use nazi image so no one can forget nazis and bad thing they do. song of mengele is same as song about dracula, just horror music business dude" |
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Nocturnal Deathstrike
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| veadtuck wrote: | | i don't remember "DeathLord" being in the band or on any of the recordings. i always figured they were apolitical, which left things open to interpretation and may be one of the reasons they had racist fans. |
He´s in the band since it´s reeincarnation... played on Live Ritual Friday the 13th...
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Airyanem Vaejah
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| Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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| gromcrom wrote: | | To help band when interview by magazine, I come up with ready made quote to use: |
Die faggot. |
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DSS
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| Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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| NCF wrote: | ures/2011/05/24/blasphemy-interview-crime-and-powerlifting-pays/
[i]Also, it seems Blasphemy have an unusually large following amongst folks of a more, er, ‘dubious’ political affiliation – “unusually large” because it’s disproportionate to Caller of the Storms being black, although a number of knuckleheads have made an exception to his color – so what would you attribute this to?
Black Winds: We don’t know why. I guess they like good music.
DeathLord: .....I can’t actually answer for any of these fools, as I have no idea why they would be stupid enough to embrace a moronic idea like ‘white power’ or politics in the first place. I can only guess that they have to continually make justifications for themselves, as their philosophy is so fucking ridiculous. You’d have to constantly lie to yourself in order to trick yourself into following such dead ideas.
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I guess Satanism is not a moronic idea  Sacrificing lambs, drinking vomit from the priest, Dance of the Dead with sabbatic goats, Hailing in the sign of Satan, Baptised in goat's blood, Send the virgin to the flame.... I better stop now. Some great and intelligent lyrics they wrote. I wonder what kind of justifications they make for themselves to believe such nonsense?
This is the reason why I see music only as music and can't be bothered who's behind the instruments. Too many hypocrites out there. |
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xyosefx
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| Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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| veadtuck wrote: | | i don't remember "DeathLord" being in the band or on any of the recordings. i always figured they were apolitical, which left things open to interpretation and may be one of the reasons they had racist fans. |
"DeathLörd of Abomination & War Apocalypse" is Ryan Forster. He's on the "Live Ritual" LP and the "Die Hard Rehearsal" and has been playing in the band since 1999. And I assume he'll be on the 3rd album if it ever manifests.
Hail Blasphemy!
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satanic ritual abuse
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| Hail Blasphemy! Satanism is not a moronic idea. Satan is real. |
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hellbomber
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| Orpheus wrote: | fuck.
Not everything needs to be about politics, in fact the less the better. When you politicise art, it is diminished. It loses abstract, ephemeral qualities and regresses to simple propaganda. |
Nuff said there...
HAIL BLASPHEMY !!!!
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Primitive
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Slayer also had a giant following of nazi boneheads.and there probably still are some backward ass idiots who truly think they're a "white power band" same with pantera (dry heev!). This wouldn't piss me off so much if it wasn't for the fact that the person who made this did it because memebers of blasphemy claim to be skinheads, SKINHEAD DOES NOT MEAN RACIST OR NAZI! Look up your history! It's like reprinting symarip's skinhead moonstomp lp and putting SS runes around "skihead"! It's so fucking ignorant!
And blasphemy were also asked in an interview "what do you think of fascist skins?" There reply was something along the lines as "so long as they stay away from us"
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ImBlueIBelieveICanDie
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| How did Caller of the Storms End up in the psyche hospital? |
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SoundsOfDecay
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| Orpheus wrote: | | Not everything needs to be about politics, in fact the less the better. When you politicise art, it is diminished. It loses abstract, ephemeral qualities and regresses to simple propaganda. |
Well said |
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CR99
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I don't care about the politics in Blasphemy- classic extreme metal, no discussion. But if someones releasing a NSBM-alike bootleg release because the members of the band use the "skinhead"-tag (which was very very left wing originally, by the way), I can express my opinion that this is obviously not a very well thought through and retarded/tacky looking bootleg.
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wasteland
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| Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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| ImBlueIBelieveICanDie wrote: | | How did Caller of the Storms End up in the psyche hospital? |
Who's in the what now?
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ImBlueIBelieveICanDie
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| wasteland wrote: | | ImBlueIBelieveICanDie wrote: | | How did Caller of the Storms End up in the psyche hospital? |
Who's in the what now? |
I'm referring to one of the interviews with the band done in the past where one of them said Caller of the Storms is not with them and he ended up in the psyche hospital for awhile. |
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