Watain - The Vinyl Reissues - 4lp Box

the coming of blood angel · Joined: 05 Apr 2010 Posts: 327

Kick butt.

holy ghost · Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 6:31 pm Post subject:

I've never ordered from SoM before - how is the quality of their LPs?

And the reliability of their mailorder? I would really like an LP copy of Casus Luciferi....
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weaklingone · Joined: 05 Aug 2009 Posts: 1108 Location: UK

I think people who fall on extremes for this band are just trying to aggravate others. The band is neither spectacular nor terrible from an objective perspective (i.e. solid musically, but pretty unoriginal). CL was a Mayhem worship album, solid stuff if you are into the 'orthodox' sound, but I can see why some people see the whole movement as being boring since many bands tend to sound very same-y (like a lot of swedeath). The newer albums are admittedly a bit more original musically (although still fundamentally derivative of Mayhem and Dissection), but personally the production sounds about as interesting as watching paint dry, grass grow, etc. thereby sucking all the enjoyment out of listening to Lawless and Sworn. Hating on them for being successful is pretty silly as we all know the days of the "true underground" (whatever that means) are obviously long gone, and if message boards make up the modern underground, well that is just pathetic.

Vis-a-vis the comment about Erik changing perspectives on his own band/the underground since 2001. I don't think it is at all hard to understand why stuff like that happens, even in the Judas Iscariot case. People grow up, if you don't evolve your perspective in 9 years, you are more or less braindead. In the case of Watain, of course they would tailor their perspective to their own growing fame simply because if you dedicate your life to making music (especially extreme metal), belonging to the underground is essentially thankless beyond maintaining one's own integrity, which is not enough for 90% of human beings on earth as evidenced by an increasingly corrupt capitalist society.

My opinion is that at least they are making reasonably OK music for how famous they have become, especially considering all the bands that have sold out to a much more extreme degree to receive even a fraction of the praise/success. They are fun to see live, but I sold both Sworn and Lawless a few months after buying them. It would be great if people could stop being antagonist shitheads about this kind of stuff, but then again metal fans are ultimately humans who are of course almost all ignorant at the end of day. So I like to kick back, drink a beer, and laugh at the stupid shit people post on this board especially when it comes to bands like this.
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Thoth · Joined: 19 Jun 2010 Posts: 334

My main issue with them is that they used to be absolutely uncompromising in their ways: absolute violence and blood/fire/death (dead animals) on stage to adequately support their beliefs and behaviours. These days, though perhaps their spiritual background is still there, it's all show and business. Special releases? Better make that an extremely over-the-top package. 10 year anniversary? 13 year anniversary? Release of the new album? Better make that an absolutely over-the-top show. Sure, I'm all for special occasion shows and whatnot, but these guys just come off as tryhards who try to appear extreme and evil when in fact they're trying sell more albums and "shock". Whatever that word means now.

Look at bands like Marduk. Sure, they're on Century Media now and sure they have their ups and downs, but they still make excellent Black Metal, have an uncompromising Satanic attitude, put out decent shows everytime I see them and don't try to shock or be the next lady GaGa. And I bet they sell more albums than Watain do.

weaklingone · Joined: 05 Aug 2009 Posts: 1108 Location: UK

ArnusProfanus · Joined: 11 Apr 2010 Posts: 357 Location: Monterrey, Mexico

shipping to Mexico is fucking expensive, any US Distros that will have this?
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toxicbreed · Joined: 21 Apr 2011 Posts: 180

Watain signed to Century Media

Century Media Records is proud to welcome Swedish black metal extremists WATAIN to its worldwide family. The much anticipated fifth studio album will be out in 2013!

Wolfram · Joined: 17 Jun 2007 Posts: 2121

holy ghost · Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:54 pm Post subject:

I ordered Casus Luciferi a while back, I got an email like an hour ago saying it had shipped.
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Below_The_Sun · Joined: 09 Jun 2012 Posts: 388

Sadistik Goatfvkk · Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:21 am Post subject:

Sound is good on all four, but I have no comparison to the first presses.

Covers are all normal gatefold, I posted pictures of them all in "Recent Vinyl Scores" two weeks ago.

Cross of Donar · Joined: 20 Jan 2008 Posts: 596 Location: Yes

What are the bonustracks? Must be a lot of them, because the first two albums easily fit on a single record.
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NK7 · Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:43 am Post subject:

Cursed Emperor · Joined: 30 May 2011 Posts: 428