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Piotr Sargnagel



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 2:36 am    Post subject: Russian records Reply with quote

I have some questions about Russian Metal records that are listed on Discogs as having a "laminated sleeve", (for example: http://www.discogs.com/sell/release/4435648?ev=rb) so how does it differ from normal sleeves? Is it the gloss they put on them? I only seem to come across this with Russian LPs. Cheaper production costs? 1980s Russian and Eastern Block LPs have some of the thinnest and shittiest sleeves I have ever come across. It seems virtually impossible to get them without substantial ringwear.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps it means like the old sleeves you'd get in the 60's and 70's - from the top of my head Master of Reality had one and Deep Purple self titled + loads more - I think it went out of fashion in the west but must still be popular in Russia - it's just a plastic laminate over the paper but suppose they stopped it in the west cos they don't last very well

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes It's just Glossy cover. And all these "Laminated" were made just after 1990.Have no idea how it happened.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weird how the Russians decided they'd start doing it after 1990
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So that must mean that any albums that came out pre-1990 are represses if they have the laminated sleeve? Not that it matters a huge amount...
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Piotr Sargnagel wrote:
So that must mean that any albums that came out pre-1990 are represses if they have the laminated sleeve? Not that it matters a huge amount...


I think so. I lived here in soviet times and started to buy records back in 1988 so can confirm that I've never ever saw any Glossy/Laminated covers until 1990 or even maybe 1991.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok thanks for the info! Do you happen to have any links to further information about the recording/pressing plant industry in Russia in the 80s? It seems like such a dark and mysterious age now all these years later. The Iron Curtain, what a magnificent and forbidding phrase; doesn't get more Heavy Metal than that!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not just glossy, it's a seperate layer above the cover print. And unfortunately it tends to seperate from the print. Looks really cheap. The Exploited LP in the picture is not from Russia but from Czechia but I guess it's all the same shitty quality with those "laminated covers"...

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks shitty but somehow in a charming way, like a record that's lived in a damp milk crate and is meant to be PLAYED until it's worn out and then sold at a rainy, sleety, grey, cold flea market along with old overcoats and bits of dusty transistor radios.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is so much russian deadstock popping up for cheap it really shouldn't be a problem to find something without ringwear. At least for the one you mentioned, the Korrozia's, Kruger, etc.

I personally like these covers and somehow I can't stand the super-glossy covers that e.g. Floga produces.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where might all this lovely deadstock be? I'm just a bit wary of anything that's 30-odd years old and "mint".
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've seen tons of old Melodia, Russian Disc etc releases in "mint, unplayed" condition popping up from eBay and discogs sellers all over eastern Europe the past couple years. As many copies of these records were pressed I have no doubt there's tons of unsold stock laying around. I bought quite a few for next to nothing and while not mint they were REALLY nice compared to some of the other Russian LPs in my collection. I got a M-/M- Magnit for $7, bunch of Master, Kruiz etc for $5, many of the less common 90s stuff for under $20 and so on. Still yet to find a cheap Credo or Valkyria though
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There were quite a few souh american records that came like this in the late 80s and 90s, the gloss would not last as the lamination would come right off after a few months.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers for the input!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Piotr Sargnagel wrote:
Where might all this lovely deadstock be? I'm just a bit wary of anything that's 30-odd years old and "mint".



maybe here: http://punkmetalshop.ru/
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