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Nyx



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone is offering a reasonable amount for this tape but i've always thought it was a dubbed copy and i don't want to take his money if it's a "fake". Here are some photos, hope you can help me out. Thanks in advance!

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f378/ofdoom/DSC07080.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f378/ofdoom/DSC07085.jpg
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sadistik-Exekution-Demo-1987-Aussie-Black-Death-metal-Slaughter-Lord-Renegade-/140894639632?pt=Music_Cassettes&hash=item20cdf99610

is this an original copy?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

baobao wrote:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sadistik-Exekution-Demo-1987-Aussie-Black-Death-metal-Slaughter-Lord-Renegade-/140894639632?pt=Music_Cassettes&hash=item20cdf99610

is this an original copy?


A friend of mine has this reh. demo, and this one listed on eBay looks exactly like the copy he owns. Both are even recorded onto the same SONY HF cassette.. Is difficult to say for sure, but I think this one is an original copy.

P.S. I'm keeping an eye on it as well! Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

evil.strike wrote:
baobao wrote:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sadistik-Exekution-Demo-1987-Aussie-Black-Death-metal-Slaughter-Lord-Renegade-/140894639632?pt=Music_Cassettes&hash=item20cdf99610

is this an original copy?


A friend of mine has this reh. demo, and this one listed on eBay looks exactly like the copy he owns. Both are even recorded onto the same SONY HF cassette.. Is difficult to say for sure, but I think this one is an original copy.

P.S. I'm keeping an eye on it as well! Wink


thanks for the information!

and ouch! can we have a off table settlement for this one Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

baobao wrote:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sadistik-Exekution-Demo-1987-Aussie-Black-Death-metal-Slaughter-Lord-Renegade-/140894639632?pt=Music_Cassettes&hash=item20cdf99610

is this an original copy?

Seems doubtful... 25-year-old blood smears should be a lot more brown than that from oxidization. That looks like it was done recently. The paper also displays zero yellowing, which is suspicious to my eyes.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nyx wrote:
Someone is offering a reasonable amount for this tape but i've always thought it was a dubbed copy and i don't want to take his money if it's a "fake". Here are some photos, hope you can help me out. Thanks in advance!

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f378/ofdoom/DSC07080.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f378/ofdoom/DSC07085.jpg

At least the cover looks like the real deal, although it's impossible to be 100% certain by just looking at the photo.
What's the sticker in the tape?
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Nyx



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

passetiermes wrote:
Nyx wrote:
Someone is offering a reasonable amount for this tape but i've always thought it was a dubbed copy and i don't want to take his money if it's a "fake". Here are some photos, hope you can help me out. Thanks in advance!

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f378/ofdoom/DSC07080.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f378/ofdoom/DSC07085.jpg

At least the cover looks like the real deal, although it's impossible to be 100% certain by just looking at the photo.
What's the sticker in the tape?


It says "Morningstar" on the sticker and is hand written, the tape is single sided, artwork as well.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

evil.strike wrote:
baobao wrote:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sadistik-Exekution-Demo-1987-Aussie-Black-Death-metal-Slaughter-Lord-Renegade-/140894639632?pt=Music_Cassettes&hash=item20cdf99610

is this an original copy?


A friend of mine has this reh. demo, and this one listed on eBay looks exactly like the copy he owns. Both are even recorded onto the same SONY HF cassette.. Is difficult to say for sure, but I think this one is an original copy.

P.S. I'm keeping an eye on it as well! Wink


I'm almost 100% sure this tape brand is not from the 80ies, late 90ies or early '00 even I think.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm almost 100% sure this tape brand is not from the 80ies, late 90ies or early '00 even I think.

Exactly! The market launch for this particular kind of tape was about 1997.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

evil.strike wrote:
baobao wrote:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sadistik-Exekution-Demo-1987-Aussie-Black-Death-metal-Slaughter-Lord-Renegade-/140894639632?pt=Music_Cassettes&hash=item20cdf99610

is this an original copy?


A friend of mine has this reh. demo, and this one listed on eBay looks exactly like the copy he owns. Both are even recorded onto the same SONY HF cassette.. Is difficult to say for sure, but I think this one is an original copy.

P.S. I'm keeping an eye on it as well! Wink


Lot of fake demos are around!
This SONY tape is from 90s. I got this demo on TDK and got it from person who lived together with SAD EX guys around 1986/87 and was present during the recording in January 1987. I have her tape.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Need info on these. I guess they're all the usual xerox+reg. tape affair, but you never know!:

Necrofago - Brutal Mutilation
Masacre - Colombia...Imperio Del Terror
Massacre - Pissing Into The Mass Grave
Rotting Christ - Reh'88 a.k.a Leprosy Of Death
Rotting Christ - Decline's Return

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CR99 wrote:
Necrofago - Brutal Mutilation


The copy I own has a three-panels (Left to Right) xeroxed cover and is recorded onto a BASF tape.
It's just like this one in the pic below, but without sticker


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

torn-soul wrote:
CR99 wrote:
Necrofago - Brutal Mutilation


The copy I own has a three-panels (Left to Right) xeroxed cover and is recorded onto a BASF tape.
It's just like this one in the pic below, but without sticker



The copy in question actually looks like this tape but without any of the brand stickers on it. Instead, there is a yellow logo sticker on side A.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CR99 wrote:
The copy in question actually looks like this tape but without any of the brand stickers on it. Instead, there is a yellow logo sticker on side A.


Are you referring to the copy listed on the Neseblod website? That one should be legit.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CR99 wrote:
Masacre - Colombia...Imperio Del Terror


Xerox cover + regular tape. The tape brand of mine is rather uncommon though.
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