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morbiddeceiver



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:44 am    Post subject: Demo Authenticity Reply with quote






I know there is a post concerning this but I coud not find it.
Any information about this Tormentor (Pre-Kreator) Demo?
The cover has a fold-out picture of the band with Kreator at the top of the pic. The tape itself says Kreator - Demo '84
The owner was a writer for many Danish metal zines in the 80's and he said that he got it from the band to review it.
By the way, the sound is the best I have heard of this demo.
My guess it's a later version when they changed the band name??
Any information would be greatly appreciated.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They still sold that demo after the name change, so it is not ulikely that this is the real deal. Can you tell me the Dane's name ? I can most likely find his review.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bestial Devastator wrote:
They still sold that demo after the name change, so it is not ulikely that this is the real deal. Can you tell me the Dane's name ? I can most likely find his review.


I only know him as Anthony. He told me that he did reviews for Metal Forces, Metalized and and Hot Rockin'. Let me know what you find out. Everything about it seems legit. Thanks in advance!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This demo is also the proof that Tormentor aka Kreator defintively belonged to the First Wave of Black Metal and were not only an influential Thrash Metal band.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

morbiddeceiver wrote:
Bestial Devastator wrote:
They still sold that demo after the name change, so it is not ulikely that this is the real deal. Can you tell me the Dane's name ? I can most likely find his review.


I only know him as Anthony. He told me that he did reviews for Metal Forces, Metalized and and Hot Rockin'. Let me know what you find out. Everything about it seems legit. Thanks in advance!


That's Ken Anthony. One of the oldest and first HM fans in Denmark, going back to the early 70's. Manager for BRATS and later MERCYFUL FATE in the early days. It was in fact his girlfriend who came up with the M.FATE name.

I have a review of the TORMENTOR demo from Hot Rockin' (the first danish metal zine) but it is not written by him. He perhaps did review it for Metal Forces but I will have to check. Metalized was later, around 87/88.

But since you got it from him, I would say that it is legit.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bestial Devastator wrote:
morbiddeceiver wrote:
Bestial Devastator wrote:
They still sold that demo after the name change, so it is not ulikely that this is the real deal. Can you tell me the Dane's name ? I can most likely find his review.


I only know him as Anthony. He told me that he did reviews for Metal Forces, Metalized and and Hot Rockin'. Let me know what you find out. Everything about it seems legit. Thanks in advance!


That's Ken Anthony. One of the oldest and first HM fans in Denmark, going back to the early 70's. Manager for BRATS and later MERCYFUL FATE in the early days. It was in fact his girlfriend who came up with the M.FATE name.

I have a review of the TORMENTOR demo from Hot Rockin' (the first danish metal zine) but it is not written by him. He perhaps did review it for Metal Forces but I will have to check. Metalized was later, around 87/88.

But since you got it from him, I would say that it is legit.


That is great to hear! Thanks for your time concerning this.
I wasn't doubting Ken but I just wanted to know the deal behind the Tormentor Demo with Kreator on the tape.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not a demo, but I got the compilation "From Colombia with Hate" a few years ago on ebay, and the colour artwork is different thant the one you find on internet. It look likes it was xeroxed on yellow paper. I'd like to have a confirmation about it, if someone have the original.




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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have the exact same version of this sampler. Nice bandpic of Inquisition in the booklet by the way...
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Autopsy-1987-Original-Demo-Asphyx-Sadus-Incantation-Death-Abscess-Repulsion-/320859510836?pt=Music_Cassettes

Original? I don't think so...
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My copy of the Colombian comp has full color pro printed insert. Maybe Nelson ran out of covers so he made xeroxed ones?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I supposed it's that yes, since the CD is original. Thanks for your answers.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

your tormentor reminds me of this...i got it for cheap some months ago on ebay.de





the seller wasnt quite sure if it's original, he got it in the early 90ies...
the funny thing is that there is manowar - hail to england dubbed on side B Smile a.k.a. "manower". not to mention the lazy upside down label!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can someone give me any information about the authenticity of these Unleashed demos?




The Utter Dark demo comes with a pro-printed cover, while the ....Revenge demo comes with a normal xeroxed cover with nothing on back.
Any help is appreciated, thanks in advance!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I compare The Utter Dark tape to mine then it looks like the original.

Revenge tape - I used to have that, I seem to remember that the cover was glossy and the cassette was white.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Revenge demo is a total bootleg, original ones were distributed by CBR with a glossy cover and a white tape with screened titles on it.
The Utter Dark demo features a xeroxed cover on kinda think paper/cardboard, white tape.
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