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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I disagree, Mr. SVRTDD about DsO. All the pre-SMRC is far underrated.

I do agree with Mayhem though. Almost everything pre-DMDS and post-DMDS (bar a couple of songs on OAC) is balls.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know if it's fair to mention demos in this, really. Demos almost inherently are going to be "worse" than albums. There are exceptions of course.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First Immortal LP, the ultimate crap
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bestial Devastator wrote:
First Immortal LP, the ultimate crap


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not Metal, but yes, Depeche Mode got a WAY better with time.

I'll take shit for this, but Bolt Thrower's debut bores the crap out of me compared to when they hit Earache!

Napalm Death - IMO, got awesome with lp #3 "Harmony Corruption".
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the first Necrosanct album kind of sucked, but by the time Incarnate came out they were on top of their game. still one of my favorite UK death metal records of all time, not to mention one of the most ripping and aggressive death metal records i've ever heard. their third and final album, Desolate, is also pretty damn good, although a bit more conventional sounding.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eighthplague wrote:

I'll definitely agree with Armagedda, although I think they only made one good album anyway (Ond Spiritism). Everything else just ripped off a different era of Darkthrone.


I think that is a fair comment to some extent, although I think Only True Believers is more than just a DT rip, I mean yes the riffs are very similar, but the atmosphere is something totally different. Also, for me Armagedda is made by the vocals, I pick Graav over Nocturno Culto any day (so shoot me). So for me its still one of my favorite BM records.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Shitty first efforts Reply with quote

Stalinorgel wrote:
HELLHAMMER - Death Fiend/Triumph of Death

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brooklyn Bastard 666 wrote:

I'll take shit for this, but Bolt Thrower's debut bores the crap out of me compared to when they hit Earache!


Totally agree on this one.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ryan_the_snake wrote:
Brooklyn Bastard 666 wrote:

I'll take shit for this, but Bolt Thrower's debut bores the crap out of me compared to when they hit Earache!


Totally agree on this one.


No shit being thrown here, but I personally love BT's debut. But there really is no denying that RoC is a far superior record.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

brown growth wrote:
the first Necrosanct album kind of sucked, but by the time Incarnate came out they were on top of their game. still one of my favorite UK death metal records of all time, not to mention one of the most ripping and aggressive death metal records i've ever heard. their third and final album, Desolate, is also pretty damn good, although a bit more conventional sounding.


I agree with this, thought about Necrosanct when I saw this thread too. Although I wouldn't call Desolate exactly conventional sounding... it's chaotic as fuck!!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Werewolf wrote:
Stalinorgel wrote:
HELLHAMMER - Death Fiend/Triumph of Death
LOL Wut


I am serious. After 2-3 songs, it get's ultimately boring, every song sounds the same and the vocals are shit.

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Samael's first two were vast improvements on the quite shitty demo versions.


Fully agre. The demos are barely listenable.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Devastation (TX)

Their first record was horrible, but the second and especially third (Idolatry) were fucking amazing!!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ADB wrote:
GBK sucked at the start, now they kill!

No way mate! Goat of a Thousand Young is one of the best demos ever!!!!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brooklyn Bastard 666 wrote:
Not Metal, but yes, Depeche Mode got a WAY better with time.


This.

The first Depeche Mode album that has some of that trademark DM-sound to me is Construction Time Again (Everything Counts, Told you so, And then...). It's still mostly quite boring though. They finally got things right on Black Celebration. From that album on I've been enjoying all of their material.
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