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BEHERIT's ENGRAM
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Yes or No ?
Yes, killer as always!
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Nope, generic stuff, useless!
10%
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Not good but not bad, I keep it because it is Beherit.
24%
 24%  [ 42 ]
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IIIRD GATEKEEPER



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hahaha AGED, it's been what, a couple of years? It's a very good album... 'nuff said.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sometimes I like it better that DDtM. I've never been dissapointed with any Beherit release.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still can't stand the electronic stuff. But I'm not really in a great position to discuss that, because I do not like electronic music in general.

Other than that I agree. Beherit is aces.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GoldenBull wrote:
But I'm not really in a great position to discuss that, because I do not like electronic music in general.


Have you been able to figure out why? I used to hate the sound of keyboards -- it was too pure, too clean, too CHRISTLIKE, etc.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's OK.
Ain't spinnin this so many times,this is truth.
But they avoid the ambient shit this time fortunately..
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Conservationist wrote:
GoldenBull wrote:
But I'm not really in a great position to discuss that, because I do not like electronic music in general.


Have you been able to figure out why? I used to hate the sound of keyboards -- it was too pure, too clean, too CHRISTLIKE, etc.


Short answer: Jello Biafra said it best. "It's like a bad laxative. It just don't move me."

Long answer: I'll have to think about it.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GoldenBull wrote:
Long answer: I'll have to think about it.


If you ever find out, let me know. I still don't know why I don't like some genres.

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On another topic, that of Engram itself, let me address the entire forum --

I know the internet is nothing but dicks 'n' cat pix, but if you can't take a stand in the most mundane of forums, where can you?

I think Engram is a work of genius.

It is designed to take black metal to its next level while simultaneously bringing it back to the raw and primal state that existed before it got "slick" around 1993 or so.

It is intensely ritual music that combines ideas from ambient music with metal riffs and mood -- pure power.

In the tendency of later BEHERIT, it aims for a deliberate, calculating, austere sense of evil, instead of the raw chaotic rush of the early work.

It sounds like Satan meditating.

I think it merits inclusion in the canon of black metal, the list of BEHERIT classics, and that it outshines many an album, including most that are highly praised.

I think time will bear me out on this one, but I can't prove it to you. It's up to your ears. I'll just say that this album is more ambitious than anything in BM for over a decade.

We always wonder, "Where does it go from here?" How does black metal carry on, without losing what it was and becoming that from which it fled (rock, jogging suit metal, emosex cock-rock, etc)?

The answer is that sometimes you throw out the particulars, which easy calcify, and go back to the pure spirit.

In spirit, this album is the same sensation one got when listening to black metal all those years ago, standing in the same radio station or dormitory lobby thinking, "I'm not sure I want to like this. It unnerves the fuck out of me."

Hail Satan.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I seem to remember reading somewhere that the vinyl version of Engram had a different mix compaired to the CD version. Can anyone confirm this? Does it sound any different?
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Dalen



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Conservationist, I don't get why you like Engram so much, it is a great album, it does sound like Beherit due to those ritualistic elements, but I'd hardly compare it to their earlier stuff. What they had never done until their reunion was a professionally written album and that's what Engram is, surely, the feeling is still there, but I think what bands like Craft or Bekhira achieved is way, way more difficult to accomplish for a 00's active band, taken into account it's nearly impossible to record an album making it sound as if it was released back then. Of course, maybe you don't like these bands at all, taste differs, but if you'd tell me that stuff was released in the early 90's I would actually believe you.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Album needs listenings.
Second side (suck my blood,demon advance) is dark as hell and captures ,for me,the old Beherit spirit.With different way(slower) and sound, than the glorious past.
Holocausto is inside his element,if he wants.
''All in Satan'' song has some old ''Beherit growls'' with aaa,like the albums we love from them.
I'll say it again.The album is very dark and has a black aura.Feeling is blackmetal..Some people should try to listen to it a bit more.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still all about Drawing Down The Moon and Electric Doom...
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have listened to it a lot. I am a big Beherit fan and I do believe it's a great comeback. It's just that comparing it to Oath or Drawing is.. well. My favorites are Pagan Moon and Axiom Heroine though, very very easily.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Listening to it now since a while, still a very good album!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought it was a great come-back. I think a lot of people were expecting another Drawing Down the Moon.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The best black metal album of the 2000's.
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