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Steken



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're kinda all over the place there, but one of the very best biographies with a practicing occultist as its main character would be Patrick Deveney's Paschal Beverly Randolph: A Nineteenth-Century Black American Spiritualist, Rosicrucian, and Sex Magician.

If you could, perhaps, specify a little bit closer what exactly you're looking for, I could perhaps be of better help. But the Deveney book is marvelous.

ETA: If, instead of a biography about one specific guy, you'd like a bigger, broader overview of some of the main players in 19th century occultism, with focus on the situation in Britian, then go for Godwin's The Theosophical Enlightenment.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I understand your train of interest, perhaps Unholy Alliance by Peter Levenda might be up your alley. It's written by dear old "Simon"-Peter so do NOT under any circumstances take him at his word, the man was obviously an intelligence agent during his "exile" in asia and is now pursuing his moralist provocateur agenda upon his return to publishing world. The book IS interesting though.
Also, "Secret Agent 666" which details Crowleys activities on behalf of British Intelligence was a VERY good read.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On Nazi and/or Ariosophic themes, I recommend either the works of Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke (for a serious, well-researched SCHOLARLY view), or else go straight to the batshit insane source of it all, namely Lanz von Liebenfels' wonderfully kooky Theozoologie.

(Ps. Anything and everything you read which claims that Hitler himself was a practicing occultist is false, by the way. Makes for great entertainment, sure, but it just ain't true.)
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is your source for that statement? Im not disagreeing with you, but I havent been able to come to a conclusion on that subject.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, sorry if I made myself a bit unclear. I'll try to reword it.

I'm mostly looking for stuff that's biographical, rather than practical. I'm fairly interested in the history of the occult as well as a lot of eastern Shamanism.

BUT. I'm also looking for some general stuff on cults as well.

If that helps a little more. Sorry for any misunderstanding and thanks for the suggestions so far.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PERDURABO by Dr. Kaczinsky is the definitive Crowley biography. The rest cannot approach it, and many just plain suck.

This is one of the most informative (and confusing) websites I have ever read, and it focuses on a very narrow field of 20th Century occultism; the OTO.
http://www.parareligion.ch/

Also, am I the only person that thinks Lon Milo DuQuette's work is completely worthless?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Orpheus wrote:
What is your source for that statement? Im not disagreeing with you, but I havent been able to come to a conclusion on that subject.

Nothing in his recorded speeches or writings betrays a sympathy for occultism, let alone that he himself ever practiced the stuff. In fact, the record shows that actively worked against occultism, and so too did the government he led. In Heather Wolffram's The Stepchildren of Science: Psychical Research and Parapsychology in Germany, for example, it is mentioned that from 1933 and on, the Nazi Party saw

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occultism's dangers in medical, moral, financial and ideological terms, its message of universal brotherhood in direct conflict with the völkisch nationalism preached by National Socialism.

So they cracked down on it:

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In the course of 1937, [their] negative stance on occult practice became official when the National Socialist government issued a decree for the protection of the people and the state, which dissolved occult, theosophical and psychical research groups, effectively outlawing occultism.

They also crushed Freemasonry (which is sometimes occult and sometimes isn't), which they associated with Judaism. In Compass, Square And Swastika: Freemasonry In The Third Reich, Christopher Campbell Thomas writes that as early as 1935, the Bavarian Political Police could proudly brag about how

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Freemasonry in Germany is completely smashed.

The historical record indicates that, though individual Nazis might well have harbored sympathy for occultism, Hitler himself did not. Quite the opposite.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Distrupticon wrote:
Oh, sorry if I made myself a bit unclear. I'll try to reword it.

I'm mostly looking for stuff that's biographical, rather than practical. I'm fairly interested in the history of the occult as well as a lot of eastern Shamanism.

BUT. I'm also looking for some general stuff on cults as well.

If that helps a little more. Sorry for any misunderstanding and thanks for the suggestions so far.


For the history of occultism generally, the PERFECT introduction would be Prof. Wouter Hanegraaff's Western Esotericism: A Guide for the Perplexed. Seriously. Forget everything else I've written; just get that book and read it.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Orpheus wrote:
PERDURABO by Dr. Kaczinsky is the definitive Crowley biography. The rest cannot approach it, and many just plain suck.

I was just going to post this... not to nitpick, but it's "Kaczynski". Anyway, I'd highly recommend the more recent edition from North Atlantic Books, which is significantly expanded from the original. And I'm not just plugging it because I did some copyediting work on it.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

la_ciudad_podrida wrote:
Orpheus wrote:
Eliphas Levi is almost essential reading IMO but there are a few issues with him. Although he is an important "snapshot" of 19th century occultism, you cant take him as "gospel" or a standard reference in the same way you take for granted that the values in the periodic table are correct. There are certain minor details where he deliberately gives "blinds" and gives he wrong data or attributions. Standard practice for the period, the idea is that a "profane outsider" wont get anything out of it but those with some personal experience or understanding will be able to piece it together.


interesting, Ill have to keep this in mind while reading.


To be honest, I've only tried "Dogma and Ritual of High Magic" from Eliphas Levi; however, either the book is quite complex to be understood at first reading or I'm too stupid to comprehend it when reading it.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xyosefx wrote:
Orpheus wrote:
PERDURABO by Dr. Kaczinsky is the definitive Crowley biography. The rest cannot approach it, and many just plain suck.

I was just going to post this... not to nitpick, but it's "Kaczynski". Anyway, I'd highly recommend the more recent edition from North Atlantic Books, which is significantly expanded from the original. And I'm not just plugging it because I did some copyediting work on it.


Cool! Have you also read his Forgotten Templars, about the OTO? If so, can you recommend it?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Currently reading Seven Sermons to the Dead by Carl Jungs.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what is everybody's opinion on the book "Dead Names: The Dark History of the Necronomicon" ?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found this ancient occult grimoire at my local bookstore.
I can already feel my intuition and capacity for problem solving improving a lot after reading the first few chapters. Has anybody else read it?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hallucinogen wrote:
I found this ancient occult grimoire at my local bookstore.
I can already feel my intuition and capacity for problem solving improving a lot after reading the first few chapters. Has anybody else read it?


STOP WHAT YOU'RE DOING. That is an EXTREMELY powerful work, which, out of an overabundance of concern for the mental and spiritual health of my fellow NWN! forum members, I have intentionally NOT mentioned in the discussion so far. That shit can fuck you up for life. Burn the book NOW, and walk away...

Start with the easy stuff, like krokodil-fueled astral projections to Planet Satan and bareback anal sex with lusty goats.

Once you've mastered those techniques, you might, perhaps, consider moving on to the more serious stuff... Until then, though - be CAREFUL, brother...
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