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lordnausea



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 2:28 am    Post subject: In honour to BEHOLD BARBARITY Reply with quote

Well, I must be late to the party, but yesterday I read the news about what has happened to the guy behind this label. And I think is a completely shitty situation.

It is sad how something such important as your own work, the money to you and your family, can be affected because your private personal activities, when you are running just for pasion and dedication to extreme metal a small label just to support the bands and music genres you love.

Too many people who has no idea about was really extreme metal is (music exploration of the dark side of things, feelings, thoughts, in all its possible faces, without boundaries) are attacking the freedom of creation and expression.

Just a big thank you to this label guy for the risky support to the true underground and a big FUCK OFF to the PC metalheads and witchhunters.

Hope he founds soon a new job.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 3:07 am    Post subject: Re: In honour to BEHOLD BARBARITY Reply with quote

lordnausea wrote:

Hope he founds soon a new job.


Ain't that easy, I'd say. He wasn't flipping burgers where he could simply move on from McDonalds to Burger King and no one would bother looking into his background story... Nowadays in white collar workplaces it's standard procedure to google any future employee and if your name shows up in a context like that, you're fucked. Needless to say, that's exactly what those hounding him wanted to accomplish, at last.

And lest some dumbass starts again crying: "This ain't a witchhunt, this guy supports fascism and fascism gonna get us all killed so let's kill him first!"; just fuck off if you seriously are that retarded to believe that some CD or shirt can actually do more than hurt someone's fucking feelings. You feel offended, go cry in your safe space. But if you go after the guy who has had the nerve to offend you, and you (want to) destroy his social and professional life, then who's the real fascist here?

Just my 88 cents. Now I am off releasing some more NSBM to make hebe hipsters stay away from Black Metal, for good. Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BEHOLD UNEMPLOYMENT
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nosferatu wrote:
BEHOLD UNEMPLOYMENT


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BB, Micetrap & Stormfront were pretty much gone in the same time span.

It is us today, it will be you tomorrow.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone know anything about Elegy records? Says he's upgrading his site buuuut also see he's had his PayPal shut off.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To put a different spin on this (as it seems panties only get in a twist if the lyrical sentiments are based on racial ideals)

...imagine if this sort of successful movement was started by say... just plain old Christians and they went on a crusade to put a cease and desist to anything and everything mocking Christ.
Apply the same train of thought now to any subject or topic depicting generalized violence or murder (every brutal death band ever)

I think you can all get the idea. Regardless of your tastes towards some peoples racial viewpoints, making albums and stuff is a far cry from mobilizing some armed forces and storming someone's lands (its just not the same, it really isn't)

What is alarming here is mainly what this movement is using to accomplish what they are doing (same tactics everyone is afraid of and any sensible person would immediately recognize as fascism) ...but where does it end?



Twisted Sister Dee Snider put a end to some of this very same bullshit all those years ago... its how metal survived... now metal is being attacked through the back door by probably the same type of people just using dumb people unable to recognize it as being exactly that to achieve their same goals they had all those years ago when Dee sat in a hearing before congress and made them all look like fools.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bones wrote:
Anyone know anything about Elegy records? Says he's upgrading his site buuuut also see he's had his PayPal shut off.


Elegy & WolfTyr too.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lawyers are always needed, especially in the US. He can found his own firm and focus on clients no one else would defend.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:15 am    Post subject: Re: In honour to BEHOLD BARBARITY Reply with quote

DTBRex wrote:


Ain't that easy, I'd say. He wasn't flipping burgers where he could simply move on from McDonalds to Burger King and no one would bother looking into his background story... Nowadays in white collar workplaces it's standard procedure to google any future employee and if your name shows up in a context like that, you're fucked. Needless to say, that's exactly what those hounding him wanted to accomplish, at last


He is a lawyer, so his conduct is largely governed by what the BAR association sees fit. Tough tits, but he knew it I am sure.

Now... He does not have to be a corporate lawyer, or be on a partner track in a big law firm. He can build his own practice, answering to no one, and nothing will prevent him from being successful if his community supports his ideals. If it doesn't, maybe it is time to move or get some new ideals.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Demoniarch wrote:
Twisted Sister Dee Snider put a end to some of this very same bullshit all those years ago... its how metal survived... now metal is being attacked through the back door by probably the same type of people just using dumb people unable to recognize it as being exactly that to achieve their same goals they had all those years ago when Dee sat in a hearing before congress and made them all look like fools.


Buddy, you really should actually listen to or read what Snider had to say during testimony some time, and you would see how it has no relation to what happened to BB.

His entire argument was that the PMRC misinterpreted and misrepresented Twisted Sister's lyrics and merchandise.

No one misrepresented Behold Barbarity. And no one in the government is trying to censor his distro.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AngelBlake wrote:
Demoniarch wrote:
Twisted Sister Dee Snider put a end to some of this very same bullshit all those years ago... its how metal survived... now metal is being attacked through the back door by probably the same type of people just using dumb people unable to recognize it as being exactly that to achieve their same goals they had all those years ago when Dee sat in a hearing before congress and made them all look like fools.


Buddy, you really should actually listen to or read what Snider had to say during testimony some time, and you would see how it has no relation to what happened to BB.

His entire argument was that the PMRC misinterpreted and misrepresented Twisted Sister's lyrics and merchandise.

No one misrepresented Behold Barbarity. And no one in the government is trying to censor his distro.


The satanic panic scare stirred up by some over sensitive Christians... was an attempt to censor everything deemed unfit by Christian opinions. A massive attempt to lay down some serious implications on art and media had they won.
The correlations here with what antifa have done to behold barbarity is the same, but on a smaller scale. Sure racist sentiments is most certainly hard to defend or pretend might be a little tasteless here and there, but if you are willing to look a little deeper it can easily be seen as the same thing... it is a step in censoring, and where and when does it end once that snowball starts rolling?

To try and force people not to feel what they feel is crazy. It is an inherent trait to keep distance from people not exactly like your self. A survival mechanism from probably way back. Something to take as long to fade away as it probably did to grow and establish to begin with. Blunt force knee jerk reactions are not going to stop it. Only escalate it.




When all the evil ns villains are out of business and they no longer have their purpose... what do you think they are going to move on to next?

This antifa has money behind them too from somewhere. These jobless and aimless band of clowns are not financing the 'movement' on their own dollar, that can certainly be guaranteed... cause if they were actually employed normal people they would not have the time to be involved in such bullshit.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, to the revolutionary militant – be it on the “left” or on the “right” – nothing is off bounds. All of society is a battlefield, and “the enemy” can (and should) be attacked anywhere, everywhere and by any available method.

The idea that “art” is, or should be, a neutral, above-the-fray “safe space,” is – in the mind of the revolutionary militant – a hopelessly quaint bourgeois delusion.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steken wrote:
Well, to the revolutionary militant – be it on the “left” or on the “right” – nothing is off bounds. All of society is a battlefield, and “the enemy” can (and should) be attacked anywhere, everywhere and by any available method.

The idea that “art” is, or should be, a neutral, above-the-fray “safe space,” is – in the mind of the revolutionary militant – a hopelessly quaint bourgeois delusion.


True enough... I just doubt these militant so called 'revolutionists' have half the brain one would suspect necessary to finance a mere 1/10th of the stuff they do. Like I said before, normal people with normal jobs have no time or money to parade around making trouble on either side of the fence. Unemployed but somehow financed by higher establishments to be the mindless brainless idiots making all the media sensational mess are like pawns on a chess board... but for whom or for what?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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