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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:32 am    Post subject: The worst attempt at making "ambient" music... Reply with quote

Now, I know I may be on thin ice here but this is METAL RELATED!

I'm wondering what you would consider the worst attempt of Black Metal musicians at creating "ambient" music.

I am only thinking of "official" releases here like demos, eps and albums. Not YouTube-only releases.

So does Lamentation make you hurl? Do you vomit God's child when you hear Burzum's "ambient" albums? Do you get spastic fits when somebody puts on Neptune Towers? Tell us about it! And please, post samples.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moloch probably. I'd say Vinterriket but that guy never actually did anything black metal.

It's simple you can either make good ambient, noise, PE, industrial/whatever works or good black metal. The only people I've met that can pull off doing both usually just make some kind of fushion of the two.

Ambient music is meant to be background music, that is still and lifeless, there to occupy space. Black metal is obviously not about doing that.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally I never liked Darkness Enshroud.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vega360 wrote:
Moloch probably.


Siergiy did a lot of shit, but Rotten threads of life was a good release. If he were not so laaaazy, he could have made other good stuff like this demo.

I second Darkness enshroud. Abaddon failed this time...
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who buys all the Moloch shit? is it just stuck in distros or in his garage?

Don't understand the need to created hundreds of ambient releases.

That and Uruk-Hai... Shit is a joke.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vega360 wrote:
Ambient music is meant to be background music, that is still and lifeless, there to occupy space. Black metal is obviously not about doing that.


Disagree. That's part of it, but as our friend Brian Eno says, it's meant to be listened to as intently as 'regular music. Limiting it to specifically background music does a disservice to the entire genre.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mortado wrote:
Personally I never liked Darkness Enshroud.

Did anyone?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WONGRAVEN sucked for sure, so did NEPTUNE TOWERS.

Proscriptor's solo album is also extremely annoying, I think Equitant had something similar shitty going on. Not sure anymore.

But the really WORST attempt at "Ambient" I ever heard was this pile of shit:



If we can count the "Black Aria" solo-crap from Glenn Danzig as well, this would also rank extremely bad.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few weeks ago I was sent a demo out of the blue by someone from California. No name on the return address or anything and I haven't been able to find anything about the band on the internet. It was the Perdition demo, Battle. Hands down the worst attempt at music / noise / ambient I've ever heard. Literally sounds like someone laid down a bunch of keyboards in a room and let their cat walk all over them. There's also a hilarious "fuck off" to Ashdautas in the liner notes.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was one guy (from Canada I think) who would mix Burzum's ambient music with Mortiis' music and release it as "his own" recordings. You could clearly hear the Burzum and Mortiis if you knew both band's music. I used to have the "demo" but sold it on eBay long time ago.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:08 pm    Post subject: Re: The worst attempt at making "ambient" music... Reply with quote

harmless wrote:
Do you get spastic fits when somebody puts on Neptune Towers?


This. I like everything which is Fenriz/Nocturno Culto related except this one.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:16 pm    Post subject: Re: The worst attempt at making "ambient" music... Reply with quote

Necrophagia wrote:
harmless wrote:
Do you get spastic fits when somebody puts on Neptune Towers?


This. I like everything which is Fenriz/Nocturno Culto related except this one.

Even The Misanthrope soundtrack?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easily Wongraven, when it comes to bigger projects. But anything created through Fruity Loops and that sort of shit inherently sucks.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:46 pm    Post subject: Re: The worst attempt at making "ambient" music... Reply with quote

Mikael wrote:
Necrophagia wrote:
harmless wrote:
Do you get spastic fits when somebody puts on Neptune Towers?


This. I like everything which is Fenriz/Nocturno Culto related except this one.

Even The Misanthrope soundtrack?


Even that. It's the least favorite but better than Neptune Towers for me.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Travis N. wrote:
A few weeks ago I was sent a demo out of the blue by someone from California. No name on the return address or anything and I haven't been able to find anything about the band on the internet. It was the Perdition demo, Battle. Hands down the worst attempt at music / noise / ambient I've ever heard. Literally sounds like someone laid down a bunch of keyboards in a room and let their cat walk all over them. There's also a hilarious "fuck off" to Ashdautas in the liner notes.



that sounds like the perdition man himself. interesting character
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