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Valittu



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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2016 6:08 am    Post subject: New Baptism song from upcoming album Reply with quote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLmjCScbQ8M
Feat Mikko Kotamäki from Swallow the Sun
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Dostojanstvenik



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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2016 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, that was.... underwhelming!
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2016 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not saying this was bad, but as with previous album, not really my thing.
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Cryptus



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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2016 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

excellent as always

sargofagian always manages to deliver his music filled with pure satanic essence
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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2016 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cryptus wrote:
excellent as always

sargofagian always manages to deliver his music filled with pure satanic essence


Agreed! Great song!!
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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2016 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If this is considered good by people who bought "Wisdom & Hate" or anything up-to the last 7'' EP then some people need to seriously question their hearing. sorry to say, but this is garbage.

When comes the new Hammer? Warloghe?
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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2016 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shadows... wrote:
When comes the new Hammer? Warloghe?


fuck yes to both. Was listening to Shoax this morning.
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Hallucinogen



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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2016 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure how I feel about the clean vocals, but the rest really positively surprised me. Good riffs, especially the one that comes for the first time at 2:38
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MT



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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2016 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm missing the "necro finnish" production. drums are way to "fake" sounding.
pitty.
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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2016 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MT wrote:
i'm missing the "necro finnish" production. drums are way to "fake" sounding.
pitty.


indeed, this is my problem with a lot of newer metal generally speaking. Plastic sounds are the worst.
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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2016 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shadows... wrote:
sorry to say, but this is garbage
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Demoniarch



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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2016 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not particularly finding a lot of enjoyment or interest within this song either myself.
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RottingGrandmaCorpse



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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2016 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shadows... wrote:
If this is considered good by people who bought "Wisdom & Hate" or anything up-to the last 7'' EP then some people need to seriously question their hearing. sorry to say, but this is garbage.

When comes the new Hammer? Warloghe?


Thought this exactly. I literally had to listen to Morbid Wings of Sathanas right after just to make sure i wasnt crazy. Far superior.
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2016 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Been a huge fan of Baptism early work and not sure the intensity and songwriting will ever get better than what was done on Grim Arts or Morbid Wings. They seem to be going in a slightly different direction that appeals to mainstream audiences within the genre. Maybe cleaner production has something to do with it. With only 1 sample can't jump to conclusions but sounds like same direction as their previous album which I felt was a significant drop off from earlier albums.

I can say the same thing with Behexen as well, these Finnish bands are losing their anger and intensity which made Finnish BM so great. I hope this track is one of the 'weaker' tracks of the album, cause if this is one of the best...looks like another 3-4 years of hoping they regain their form from the early days
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2016 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having given this song another listen, the conclusion I have come to is this... the vocalist is just not the best clean singer in this business. Unfortunately it sounds terrible if it were to be compared to numerous other very capable and great sounding 'clean' singers.

Be it as it may with cleaner production and having that same sort of sterile reach that I complained about on the new Behexen (similar issue here with the Baptism too to some degree in my opinion... it's like a issue that I cannot completely place, but it grates on the nerves none the less whilst listening)

...but after another listen I honestly will say I think some of the problem is that the clean vocals here are just bad, and they would be bad on any song.

Did fucking Satyricon with that radio top 40 faggot on the last album wailing on about some phoenix turn into gold over there or what and now everyone is going to do that shit? Fucking sad.
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