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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:19 am    Post subject: Re: Horror Records Statement....my tears flows... Reply with quote

Mz412 wrote:
Here is a important Statement from Horror Records:

Important message:
Horror Records will from now on refuse orders from people who we
discover to be selling our releases at outrageous prices. We do not mean
people who might want to sell their own used copy/copies for whatever
reason, but if we discover anybody ordering Horror Records releases FOR
THE SOLE PURPOSE OF SELLING THEM ON EBAY FOR VERY HIGH PRICES,
these people will be BANNED from buying from us again!!!
Help us avoid
all this money hungry business by buying directly from non-eBay outlets
or at least avoiding sellers on eBay who charge way too much!


Ok, I found on Ebay a Fucking Gay Seller
with lots of very Rare Stuff from Horror Recods Laughing

Please click me



Such auctions are very Hard for true Black Metal Labels:


SATAN'S HOST Metal from Hell picture disc JAG PANZER
The ultra limited version WITH PATCH!!! Only 100 made!


DEATH SS In Death of Steve... TEST PRESSING paul chain
Picture disc test pressing, only 15 made!!



For everyone, who doesn't understand the Joke so far, the Ebay
Seller is Horror Records himself.


So, what are you trying to say with this post?
That I am doing the exact same thing I say I am against?
I will only explain this ONCE:

The items up for auction are for a large part from my OWN COLLECTION (i.e. things I have had in my own ”listening” collection) and a smaller part are old items from the Horror Records stock that people ordered AND WHICH I RESERVED FOR THEM BUT THEY DID NOT PAY FOR! These were often the last copy in stock and when they were reserved for someone I believe would actually bother to pay for them, I immediately removed these from the website in order not to get orders for something I no longer have!
I do not want to do like many other distros – send people unwanted replacement items they never asked for!
What I stated (if you bothered to read carefully enough!) was that I am against people WHO BUY ITEMS FROM HORROR RECORDS FOR THE SOLE SAKE OF SELLING THEM ON EBAY FOR HIGH PRICES.
If I am not allowed to sell my own collection when I want to, well, excuse me Mr. Officer!
A LOT of the items auctioned on eBay (in fact most of them) have been on my trade list for a long time, but either noone was interested or had nothing of my interest to offer in trade.
On eBay I immediately got rid of everything and for this money I could buy the items I did not succeed in getting in trades!
Sabbat ”African Harmageddon” – this was released at least 10 years ago…NOONE thought of buying stuff just to put on eBay back then. It has been in my collection and I decided to part with it.
Mayhem ”De Mysteriis dom Sathanas” – one left over from the stock. The fact that I sold 50+ copies for the regular retail price when it came out (and already back then fetched prices of 100+ $ on eBay) seems to be irrelevant for people like you.
And about the testpressings which you seem so keen on mentioning – these are my own releases, so I can do with them what I want to and do not have to justify anything to you or anyone else.
In fact I do not have to justify anything at all.
But let me just tell you that the Satan’s Host LP sleeve misprinting cost me an additional 1700+ $ so if I make some money back on the testpressings it is only fair.
ALL items had a starting price of 6.66 $ and if anyone had won Mayhem or Sabbat or whatever for that price they would have gotten it!
And finally, Horror Records is not a ”true Black Metal label”.
Get your fucking facts straight!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Demonomancy666 wrote:
minge-eater wrote:
Demonomancy666 wrote:
CR99 wrote:
i hope azter still has a satan's host black vinyl testpress

that dry blood 7" is so expensive now? got it for ~10€ from stocks which i found expensive for a boot EP




Shit, I need that damn Sabbat African...7inch. Too bad that a rich Egay fucker will get instead of me Rolling Eyes

I don´t understand it...but anyway, Horror Rec is a total reliable Label !


i got both sabbat - african yellow covers from azter and both pink covers from his brother, so it might be worth asking if he as more copies


lucky bastard Laughing

After that auction I don´t think he´ll sell/trade it.


I would have for the right item for sure. But there are no more copies - I used to have all and Minge-Eater bought the yellow ones and the one here was my extra because it had also the obi.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

demonomancer wrote:
Men....what a shame that thing from Horror Records....

"Do what i say but don't do what i do!"

good luck with your auction Azter, hope you get rich betraying yourself.


I never betray myself, asswipe.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crepuscolar wrote:
Most of them has the starting price of 6.66$ so I don't really get what's all the fuzz about...


You got the point.

I believe the sellers Azter is against, is the ones who puts stuff for sale with a sky high BIN price as soon as they get the stuff from him.

Having auctions with low start bids is totaly different in my oppinion.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't see why you are defending yourself, if it's your stuff then you can do with it what you want.

I wouldn't have made the Ebay statement on the site though.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

snaps666 wrote:
Crepuscolar wrote:
Most of them has the starting price of 6.66$ so I don't really get what's all the fuzz about...


You got the point.

I believe the sellers Azter is against, is the ones who puts stuff for sale with a sky high BIN price as soon as they get the stuff from him.

Having auctions with low start bids is totaly different in my oppinion.


Yes and people who buy records with the sole intent to resell them on eBay later.

Records, especially METAL ones shouldn't be treated like fucking beanie babies. Best way to combat this? Try to release shit unlimited as much as possible. Timeless music should be readily available at all times.

This of course only applies to certain classic LP, not EP's or the odd special reissue (pic LP). Fallen Angel of Doom should be available on LP for whoever wants it, but most stuff just doesn't deserve a high pressing and those who spend crazy amounts on garbage like Krieg or Nargaroth - deserve to.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Azter:

The Point is your Statement against Sellers on Ebay and
then selling all your Stuff for self...
What you do with your stuff is your thing, but why then
this Statement?

You sell your limited and First Press and Die Hard stuff there
and get good money for that, so why pissing other sellers,
which make only the same like you?

This one :

SATAN'S HOST Metal from Hell picture disc JAG PANZER
The ultra limited version WITH PATCH!!! Only 100 made!

is no Trestpress, is no old Lp from your own Collection Laughing

Making Vinyl to sell it on Ebay and then whining that others
make the same... Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mz412 wrote:

This one :

SATAN'S HOST Metal from Hell picture disc JAG PANZER
The ultra limited version WITH PATCH!!! Only 100 made!

is no Trestpress, is no old Lp from your own Collection Laughing

Making Vinyl to sell it on Ebay and then whining that others
make the same... Laughing


Read again Mz... :

"...a smaller part are old items from the Horror Records stock that people ordered AND WHICH I RESERVED FOR THEM BUT THEY DID NOT PAY FOR! These were often the last copy in stock and when they were reserved for someone I believe would actually bother to pay for them, I immediately removed these from the website in order not to get orders for something I no longer have!"
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Records, especially METAL ones shouldn't be treated like fucking beanie babies. Best way to combat this? Try to release shit unlimited as much as possible. Timeless music should be readily available at all times.

This of course only applies to certain classic LP, not EP's or the odd special reissue (pic LP). Fallen Angel of Doom should be available on LP for whoever wants it, but most stuff just doesn't deserve a high pressing and those who spend crazy amounts on garbage like Krieg or Nargaroth - deserve to.


I would have pressed more FAOD LPs if I could. The license fee from the band was what prevented me from doing so.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Bestial Devastator

Ah, sure sure, what a golden Idea...
Why not put them back into Mailorder?

HHR and NWN can do this, they mustn't sell at Ebay and then
claim against other sellers?

The Point is not, that he sells at ebay, please don't get this
wrong, he sells very long there , is reliable and not a highbidder,
like much other Label Guy's.

But i don't see the point in the Statement against Ebay seller so
far, that he, in the end, sell's there for his own very long time.
He sell's his own releases there, new ones, old, ones, First
Press, normal editions and and and. Thats all no Problem,
but the Point is always, why pissing others on, when he make
the same?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hellhammer wrote:
Don't see why you are defending yourself, if it's your stuff then you can do with it what you want.

I wouldn't have made the Ebay statement on the site though.


I was kinda wondering too why I even bother...
The statement on the site was put there because of some recent experiences with people who sold my new release for 50 € with buy it now and a band on my label was very unhappy with that.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

-> Mz412

You don't get the difference between putting a few overstocks on ebay, with a start price at 6.66 and people who buy DieHard copies just to put them on ebay with a Buy it Now price at 100$ ???

And putting one or two single copies back in the distro seems stupid to me. I am more than convinced, that if Azter finds like 10 or 20 copies of a release, he puts it back in the distro, I've seen this done before.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Azter wrote:
Hellhammer wrote:
Don't see why you are defending yourself, if it's your stuff then you can do with it what you want.

I wouldn't have made the Ebay statement on the site though.


I was kinda wondering too why I even bother...
The statement on the site was put there because of some recent experiences with people who sold my new release for 50 € with buy it now and a band on my label was very unhappy with that.


Then erase this ones from your list and that would do it as well Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

snaps666 wrote:
You don't get the difference between putting a few overstocks on ebay, with a start price at 6.66 and people who buy DieHard copies just to put them on ebay with a Buy it Now price at 100$ ???


No, i don't see there much difference at all. If the Item is really
Fucked up at ebay, you get your money, if its overstock
or if its not overstock.

If the Item get for 100$, so a auction with 6,66 will also
go high, where's also the difference?

The intention at Ebay is to get Money... The reseller will have
money, azter will also have money, so where is the difference?


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got my Sabbat - African... vagina cover for 59 SEK (ca 6.50 Euros) in the godly Static Age recordshop in Halmstad/Sweden (directly from Ylva, holy macaroni...)

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