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Mz412



Joined: 07 May 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NSBM is just another Categorie.
In first Time, the Idea was great, cause most of the
Black Metal People claimed themselves "elite" in one
way or the other, but now its just like whole BM Scene,
a Trend. I think its just Part of Black Metal Scene, i can't
understand people, who claimed, thats no Black Metal
cause the Ideologie was in the Past always there, but
not as Split Up Scene like now.
In Australia the Guys From Bestial Warlust has also Racist
Skinhead in the Band or played in Skin Band Fortress, so its
nothing really new about this

Great Bands:
Old Graveland
Veles
Lord of Evil/War 88
SoL

Bands i don't know if they are Considered NSBM:
Abyssic Hate
Burzum
Absurd
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Hellhammer



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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avrlabel



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 95% of NS bands are musically impotent shit.
I will not talk about stupid ideology.And of course it isnt black metal surely.
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CR99



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Location: M�lheim an der Ruhr/Germany

PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah..it's a shame, there are good NS metalbands. Personally I'm totally against their ideology, but I must admit some few really can play decent music...

e.g.:

Iuvenes (Riddle of Steel, When Heroes...)
Veles
Burzum (questionable if the old metal stuff was in that spirit)
Graveland (1000 Swords, Creed of Iron)
Spear Of Longinus
Legion of Doom (early stuff)
Goatmoon (Death before...)
Fullmoon

Not BM but NS:

Outbreak (serious?)
Schizo
Infester
Exterminator (?)
Holocausto (?)

early Absurd and Thor's Hammer (Fidelity Shall Triumph) are so bad theyre good.
Despite of the questionable stuff I don't own ay of these, but I listened to them and found them great, musicially.
I would like to listen to that War88 demo. They look funny...
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's of course ridiculous and impossible to combine the ideology behind NS (standing for such values as honour, pride, loyalty, altruism, christianity, protection of life, rejection of drugs) with the absolute wimpdom and lack of values Metal is all about. Use and abuse of drugs/alcohol, antichristian crap, long hair, extreme retardedness and lack of self esteem certainly have nothing to do with NS. Nevertheless, there are some musically good 'nsbm' bands around, some of them have been mentioned in the previous posts.
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IronBloodBlasphemy



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ShawnConquest wrote:
The previous album wasn't very good at all...
disagree, I think they only get better. I can do without the seemingly endless sound samples however.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do the first 4 Burzum records count? I'm not really into too much NSBM, I like a lot of the depressive stuff like I Shalt Become and Drudkh (do they count even?) but overall, I don't think there's many bands I am that into, I would question buying record from a seriously overtly racist band, GBK aren't even that great, I have a couple and they're not that memorable to these ears.....
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:17 am    Post subject: plain shit Reply with quote

shit ideology & retarded musicanship in 95% of the cases.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"GBK aren't even that great, I have a couple and they're not that memorable to these ears....."


try again...the first two albums are nearly flawless.
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Nekrokunt_Usurper



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think GBK are pretty decent in my opinion. However I think I should chase up two questions on this forum. Holocausto never were Nazis, however they did used to sing about subjects inspired by some of their atrocites, much in the same way Slayer did with the song 'Angel of Death'.

Although Drudkh are seen as NSBM due to current member's involvement with Hate Forest, they're probably closer in spirit to Conservative Revolutions. Unfortunately I can't remember who they're referring to but on one of their songs they sing about a Ukrainian military movement that were very keen on Ukrainian identity, who resisted the Communists, but they also resisted the Nazis. Also I believe Hitler was for urbanisation, if you look at some of Speer's designs which Hitler was very keen on, however Drudkh have a 10" EP out entitled 'Anti-Urban'. One doesn's have to be NS to have a conciousness about 'Aryanism', also one who considers himself 'Aryan' is not always racist, but if they identify themself with such a term, they probably are, and I am aware that Drudkh identify themself as such, though I have no idea whether they hate other races.
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Mitch339



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:05 am    Post subject: Re: plain shit Reply with quote

throneofmight wrote:
shit ideology & retarded musicanship in 95% of the cases.


isn't this the case with all metal bands!? haha
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Nekrokunt_Usurper



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:20 am    Post subject: Re: plain shit Reply with quote

Mitch339 wrote:
throneofmight wrote:
shit ideology & retarded musicanship in 95% of the cases.


isn't this the case with all metal bands!? haha


Probably... if they have an ideaology...
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sludge



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess,the greatest NSBM band ever is LIVING COLOUR...and the most true and elite one as well...
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Mz412



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where begins NS and where ends this?

Is the Ideologie of the Musician is Important or the Rate of
Svastikas on the Cover or the Number of Hitler Speech Samples?
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Nekrokunt_Usurper



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sons of Satan were great but not quite NSBM but I think it was just a joke considering Motorsag wrote an anti-NSBM blog on his myspace.
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