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sixsixsixmusic



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:24 pm    Post subject: Selling Digital Downloads - apart from on Bandcamp Reply with quote

I have an issue with Bandcamp and it's lack of security for my music, so I'm looking to use a similar platform.

I already sell via iTunes and Amazon etc... but I'm looking for somewhere where I can control the price, like I can on Bandcamp

I'd also like to be able to list my music for free and just pay a commission.

I found a couple of places by searching on Google, such as Selz and Digital Goods Store. But has anyone got any recommendations?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just curious, what do you mean bandcamp lacks security for your music - DRM protection?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All of your music can be streamed and simultaneously downloaded.

I'm plagued by the Russian sites giving away free downloads, mainly of The Wolves Of Avalon album, which I've now removed at the bands request

I discovered afterwards that if I paid Bandcamp $10 a month I could have avoided this. But that's pointless after the album is now leaked to hell
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sixsixsixmusic wrote:
All of your music can be streamed and simultaneously downloaded.


Question

Anything that streams online can be ripped and saved as a file, and thus being uploaded again, afaik. Well, Bandcamp works fine for me but you could try Soundcloud instead. I don't know if you can sell your music there, though.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you can also post select tracks from an album on bandcamp for streaming while the others are only accessible post-purchase, so you don't give away the farm
at least the cost might be a prohibitive factor in the russians trying to fence your stuff
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes discovered I could only stream a few songs after the songs were already stolen. I don't feel like paying an extra $10 a month for the privilege when the damage has already been done

I've learnt a very expensive lesson
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you can sell anything on shopify, including digital downloads, but there's a reoccurring fee
http://www.shopify.com/
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, I'm viewing their site now
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And ebay are now starting to allow digital music sales too - as much as I dislike ebay, it might be a good option

Scrap that, the ebay page I looked at was out of date.
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Nocturnal Deathstrike



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I donīt really see the point in blaming bandcamp...
The same can happen on every other site... and it will happen.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its sad but just the reality of things these days. People have been recording streams from mag websites like Terrorizer etc when they feature albums & sharing them on the net which is obviously frustrating as the quality is not reflective of the recording. But if it is mainly sharing through these sites the vast majority of the people who download it won't buy it anyway. If they have to pay for something they simply wont or cant afford to.
Someone could pay the bandcamp fee once then just share it inifinitely anyway.
We have our promotional material watermarked so that any leaks can be traced but the album still got out before it was released by someone recording a stream from a magazine site. Im resigned that there is nothing that can be done about it.
I agree with the suggestion of only streaming a few songs & making the rest download only if you are worried. I personally feel that the benifits of Bandcamp outweigh any cons especially in a time when many people are looking for digital only format.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing has changed.

No more or less money was lost or made that was going to be anyways.

Those whom actually buy would do so prior to an album leak or after regardless and those who would not buy anyways, don't.



Someone might get to give a download a listen freely once or twice is about the only difference. The buyers have always bought, the ability to download has not changed these people exactly, for they are the same people still buying.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As has already been said, EVERY site that streams audio can be ripped. But ripping the audio from a Bandcamp stream (as with Soundcloud) is 128kbps...no-one wants that for keepers, and especially the Russian piracy scene. Chasing after someone rehosting a low quality rip of your album is a waste of time.

Even disregarding having the streams ripped, your full quality downloads will end up somewhere eventually. Bandcamp remains your best bet, I'd say.
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