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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:47 am    Post subject: Rip-off after paypal payment Reply with quote

Ok guys, please excuse my inexperience and imagine the following scenario: you bought something from someone (in private, not on egay) and transferred the money with paypal. After a couple of weeks, you notice that you will never receive anything.
Is there any chance of claiming back you money through paypal now? And if there is this chance, is there something like a time frame you have to file your claim in?

Thanks for your help in advance, juts need to know this for some future transactions.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

through paypal you can issue a complain.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you have 45 days from date of purchase to file a claim.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep in mind that you will have only 20 days to come to an agreement after filing a complaint.
I filed one via Ebay, received a message from the seller in which he promised to send a replacement (his story - Dario Pagotto, by the way - was that the package got lost due to the shittiness of the Italian postal system). I believed him, waited... too long.
After those 20 days you do not stand a chance to get your money back.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, thank you very much for your answers!!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If for some reason, you have missed the 45 days, you may still be able to convince PayPal that you deserve your money back. I've waited months for packages, called Paypal about how they never arrived, and been refunded. FUKK getting RIPPED OFF!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reed wrote:
If for some reason, you have missed the 45 days, you may still be able to convince PayPal that you deserve your money back. I've waited months for packages, called Paypal about how they never arrived, and been refunded. FUKK getting RIPPED OFF!


Really? Sounds good concerning their refund-policy in case of rip-off.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you dont sleep over paypal is not that bad as a buyer. As a seller you can get really fucked.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CR99 wrote:
If you dont sleep over paypal is not that bad as a buyer. As a seller you can get really fucked.


Mhm, we've had a bunch of these horror stories here already...
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Asphyxiation wrote:
Reed wrote:
If for some reason, you have missed the 45 days, you may still be able to convince PayPal that you deserve your money back. I've waited months for packages, called Paypal about how they never arrived, and been refunded. FUKK getting RIPPED OFF!


Really? Sounds good concerning their refund-policy in case of rip-off.


Unless the seller has emptied his account. Then paypal will side with you too, but you receive nothing.
Only ebay-purchases are fully covered.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's where people are getting fucked, both buyers and sellers:

When buying something, especially if it's expensive, pay for extra services like delivery confirmation, that way you can track your package and feel at ease that there's proof (at least a little) that your pack was sent. This won't necessarily stop rip-offs, but it will certainly decrease the chance that you'll get raped by them.

If you're selling something, for fuck's sake, send it with delivery confirmation or registration or something that shows when and where you sent the pack to. Otherwise, if the buyer never receives it and files a complaint, Paypal will come knocking at your eDoor and then you'll be looking like a 13 year old boy who got caught jacking off in the bathroom.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Delivery confirmation and tracking does not do anything for you when you're arguing with PayPal. They will fuck you in the ass.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also never ever open a dispute for fake items. It wont work
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got ripped of by a guy from the fmpboard a few years ago. I complaint within the deadline, but as the guy was a deadbeat, I havent received more than $0.02 of the 40 dollars he ripped me off. If the rip off person dont have money on his card, you cant get it.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SepticSchizo wrote:
I got ripped of by a guy from the fmpboard a few years ago. I complaint within the deadline, but as the guy was a deadbeat, I havent received more than $0.02 of the 40 dollars he ripped me off. If the rip off person dont have money on his card, you cant get it.


a guy from Thailand riped me for 200$ this way
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