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Mayhem live in IZMIR (TURKEY) Any INFOS?
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arcanacra



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Norwegian ENO MAG 01 2011 Interview with Arcan Öğütverici the 1990 Mayhem Izmir gig promoter.



FIRST BLACK METAL GIG EVER IN ANATOLIA !


You corresponded with Euronymous via mail since the late eighties, how did you first get in contact with him? Had the "Deathcrush" record made its way to Turkey by then?

It must be 1987 or 1988 when I traveled to London, UK I brought back home lots of LPs, tshirts, magazines etc all metal of course, and then sent to a couple of mags' penpal pages to get some lettering and exchanging demos, LPs etc. Prior to that I used to mail order from UK since very few stuff were being released back then in Turkey. It was a good option to have penpals, as there was no internet hehhe... So
In a few months time, I had many penpal-metalheads from UK to USA, from Japan to Euronymous (Rest In Hell) from Norway, he was claiming to be the leader of a very underground band and inner circle. He sent me lots of extreme brutal metal bands' flyers. ALso a cassatte tape of Deathcrush...

At this time in 1990, "Deathcrush" was still the latest official release from the band. Had you heard any of the material from the Dead/Hellhammer period when you first booked the gig? I imagine that even for those who were familiar with the "Deathcrush" period, the 1990 version of the band would come as somewhat of a shock.

Yeah, the Mayhem style was a shock to many at the time. You know, thrash metal has just started to get big and Metallica was the heaviest known, except for Venom. But of course on the otherhand there were many underground bands especially in Europe and Americas claiming they were the real thing but I knew most of the so-called bands didn't even know to play their equipments, and the demos or LPs they did had no musical theory in it but pure noise! But Mayhem sort of had the attitude you know, and the guys were sure knew what they played professionally-wise. Euronymous used to send me lots of flyers, demo tapes, contacts from all over the world. I still exchange news with some of the guys from those days, such like Jakub Jodl from Praha! So, yes, I knew what Mayhem sounded like when booking them...



Do you have any recollection of which songs the band got to play before the show was shut down? Judging from the recordings that exist of the shows in Zeitz and Lepizig earlier in the tour, and also the Sarpsborg recording on "The dawn of the black hearts," their setlist at the time consisted of "Deathcrush," "Necrolust," "Funeral fog," "The freezing moon," "Carnage," "Buried by time and dust," "Pagan fears," "Chainsaw gutsfuck" and "Pure fucking armageddon." Can you remember if they brought the "Silvester Anfang" intro tape with them?

Yeah, the setlist seems familiar. By the time they hit freezing moon I was talking to the cops. I had just turned 20 by then so I had no idea to stop the police ruining the gig. I have this pain in somewhere that if I was more experienced I would have settled things, but hey, then it wouldn't be the cult-gig status as it's now hehehhe. After freezing moon Dead screamed "carnageee" and someway Euronymous had the clue that police was to interrupt the gig and I recall him cursing on the mic in English of course. After the gig I told him that he once asked me in one of his letters prior to coming Turkey about how to say "fuck off" in Turkish which is "siktir", and he said "siktir, I should have remembered at the gig and cursed them in their native language". So, I was struggling with the police that the venue owner never had told me that after sun goes down, the municipality had to issue a permit since the venue was inside the fairgrounds of Izmir city, it was impossible to go and obtain the permit in the middle of the gig so police made the venue owner shut the system. The owner of the venue told later that he though Mayhem would play first, then Hazy Hill and IDEA to close the show.The local bands to play were hardcore band IDEA from Izmir, and Thrash Band Hazy Hill from Ankara. Back then in local concerts here most of the time the headliners played first, due to venue or hour limits etc. so Idea sort of took advantage and played first, then Hazy Hill and then Mayhem had to cut their setlist in the middle. I dont recall about the intro tape as I was with them in their dressing room before they hit stage.


You brought the band to a Turkish bath when they first arrived by train, did the locals react when they saw these crazy-looking tourist types?

Ahahahahh, you should have seen that. I wish we had the technology of today hehhe,
many people would pay thousands to see Mayhem naked with only a towel around their bellies, and with those classic hamam slippers on their feet... Izmir city has always been a cosmpolitan city but the area I took Mayhem to a Hamam is in close vicinity of one of the worst parts of the city, also near a flee market where lots of secondhand (stolen) stuff is exchanged, so many shopowners and passerbys were examining our group with eyes wide open. They weren't used to long hair in men, the strech pants, leather jackets etc, some were afraid, some were joking as if we were out of some SF movie like Mad Max heheheh. I recall choosing the area as a place to pay a visit to a Hamam as it was also close to the fairgroud where the venue was.
There wasn't much time to the gig after they arrived by bus in Izmir, so I had to rush things a bit. After the hamam we went directly to the fairground, found a beerhouse and chatted and sipped beers then walked to the venue.


Euronymous had intended for Mayhem to play in both Iran and Syria, but you talked him out of the former? Do you know if they ever made it to Damascus, or any other places besides İzmir, Zeitz and Leipzig?

There would be two gigs in Turkey, one in Izmir and other in Ankara, the latter was cancelled due to financial problems and lack of good connections. In some letters
Euronymous sent me he talked about plans to play in oppressed countries. As you can see from the tour programme Euronymous sent me, they were in Germany from 23rd Nov till 28th; then supposed to be in Greece on 4th Dec thru 6th ( but Dead somehow misunderstood a letter and said the Greece gig was postponed and Mayhem did not go to Greece, Euronymous wrote that in a letter to me after he went back to Oslo) ; Turkey from 9th Dec thru 11th and then Netherlands from 15th Dec to 20th to finish. In the beginning I was to arrange a gig in Ankara on the 11th Dec but I just could not handle that, so we stuck with only the Izmir gig in Turkey. I recall Euronymous asking me if I knew someone in Iran! to arrange a gig for Mayhem there. I told it was impossible to have a Mayhem gig there for known issues, and somehow persuaded him not to.



Shortly after the band returned from this tour the recordings from the Zeitz and Leipzig shows turned up. Do you know if there was made a recording of the İzmir show as well? Did the band bring along their own tape recorder or would they have relied on the venue's equipment to procure a recording?

I know, Euronymous sent me a cass. tape of the Leipzig show. Euronymous asked the sound board operator to give him a tape, I don't think he ever got that tape as the gig ended with the police arriving. Later I tried to reach the man but never got a hold of him or the tape.


Stories about Dead bringing a rotting raven in a plastic bag to concerts to precipitate the proper mood have been told for years. Did he bring any such things with him on this tour?

Dead wasn't talkative at all. I only remember shaking hands with him when I first met them at the bus station and he only nodded with his head when I talked to him. We went to a Turkish hamam, he was extremely pale from former blood losses caused by cutting himself. He had lots of scars thru out his body without any part of the body being an exception. Later, we went to a pub to have beer, Dead just sat and sipped his beer without words. He just looked me straight in the eye a couple of times: once when Euronymous told Dead buries his pants and shirts before gigs to have a feel that he was buried & came back to scream his vocal parts; the other when they were departing from Izmir, as if he wanted to leave a part in Izmir, or someway he saved the look in my memory, that he was here in this strange country to scream out his lungs for the true metal he believed.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really interesting!

So, as if they traveled by interrail, they stopped in Istanbul too.
Do you know why they couldn't manage any gig in Istanbul?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a close friend into metal in istanbul, yucel, and had him collect the mayhem guys from the train station and he opened his student house for them. In those years only metal gig there ever was in Turkey was a scorpions gig other than local bands. The metal scene was very limited, mostly kids like us who had the opportunity to learn English in private schools were digging metal, i remember in izmir which had apopulation around a million every metalhead knew each other as there were around 100 or so of us, but after 1990's metal became popular in Turkey too. So a gig in Istanbul didn't seem possible. But Yucel had Mayhem see the places in Istanbul and especially Euronymous was amazed about the food and sites. We had a plan to visit each other in the following years, I was to take interrail and visit Norway and he was planning to come in the summer time back to Turkey. Later he was running Dsp and Helvette and I was studying in the university so plans were at a halt in both sides. After some letters one day I was watching mtv and saw he was murdered, so plans left unfinished eternally. But who knows i may just fly to norway one day and pay respects to the long fallen comrade...
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

30 yıllık hayatımda en çok merak ettiğim ama kim olduğunu asla öğrenemeyeceğimi zannettiğim efsane kişi ile bu forumda karşılaşacağım aklımın ucundan geçmezdi. Saygılar..
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When worlds collide.
The new details (from Izmir 1990)
Into the Internet Eternity...
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for posting that interview with yourself. Very interesting and informative.
Do you guys know if there's anywhere I can read the full ENO article?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haagenti wrote:
30 yıllık hayatımda en çok merak ettiğim ama kim olduğunu asla öğrenemeyeceğimi zannettiğim efsane kişi ile bu forumda karşılaşacağım aklımın ucundan geçmezdi. Saygılar..


same here. over the years no detailed info about the event in local mags, forums etc. just rumours. then suddenly while browsing nwn, you see, that guy is sending posts here Smile respect
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Haagenti: hayat kozmik bir şaka dostum Smile eposta adresini bana mesajla sürpriz vereyim...

@frysh: life's a cosmic joke man:)

@Hallucinogen : I'll try to upload the ENO pages in high detail soon here.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@arcanacra: bundan bir kaç sene önce eskişehir'de yaşarken, denizlili ev arkadaşım birkaç mektubun fotokopisini göstermişti. mektuplar euronymous'a aitti, "kebap çok güzeldi" gibi laflar vardı. o mektuplar gerçek midir peki, bir fikrin mevcut mudur?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Sarcueil: Yes, Euronymous was fond of Turkish Kebab and all sort of spices that were hot. He took back home several packets of red hot pepper. He wrote that in a letter also, which probably you saw in ES-ES. I have around 20 letters by him sent to me either before or after the gig.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you have any pictures from the gig?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Vapula: Have several, you can find some stuff at my blog
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great thanks
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, that's extremely interesting!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

arcanacra wrote:
@Haagenti: hayat kozmik bir şaka dostum Smile eposta adresini bana mesajla sürpriz vereyim...

@frysh: life's a cosmic joke man:)

@Hallucinogen : I'll try to upload the ENO pages in high detail soon here.
thank you
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