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Bands better than their influences or 'originators'?
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caligulasremains



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

many people, probably most, won't agree, but svartsyn is better than darkthrone to my ears. i also think katharsis is better than darkthrone but people have already mentioned that in this thread, more than once.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I prefer Black Witchery to Blasphemy.

I know I just sealed my fate for that one...
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blazebirth Hall beats the shit out of Transylvanian Hunger by Darkthrone.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fullmoon91 wrote:
Blazebirth Hall beats the shit out of Transylvanian Hunger by Darkthrone.


Wrong, "Transilvanian Hunger" stands supreme above them all.

Plus you can't reduce Blazebirth Hall to TH-worship, there's also a lot of Burzum and Isengard in it - and surely a lot of other influences I have no clue of.

Still, BBH are unique, they sound 100% Russian to me, without knowing that country at all. THAT is real artistic achievement.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're correct about the other influences.

Transylvanian Hunger is boring as hell though.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fullmoon91 wrote:
You're correct about the other influences.

Transylvanian Hunger is boring as hell though.



totally different view.
Transylvanian Hunger is maybe boring for a lot people .
for me the riffs lead to atmosheric trance in wich i can feel cold mountain landscapes .. great, cold and monotonous for me!!

but sure this can be viewed as boring. It has a rough sound . not that postcard kiddy BM sound as on Under a funeral moon!!
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Retard wrote:
Fullmoon91 wrote:
You're correct about the other influences.

Transylvanian Hunger is boring as hell though.



totally different view.
Transylvanian Hunger is maybe boring for a lot people .
for me the riffs lead to atmosheric trance in wich i can feel cold mountain landscapes .. great, cold and monotonous for me!!


You pretty much hit the nail on the head here. With possibly the most iconic black metal album art ever.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Murder Squad > Autopsy (never liked them)
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Graveland > Bathory (pagan era). Prawo Stali > Hammerheart, both are in my favourite 10 albums of all time though.

Althoguh A Fine Day To Die and Blood Fire Death tracks > anything.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nileppez wrote:
Graveland > Bathory (pagan era). Prawo Stali > Hammerheart


Thatīs crazy talk.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fullmoon91 wrote:
Blazebirth Hall beats the shit out of Transylvanian Hunger by Darkthrone.


Miilos wrote:
Murder Squad > Autopsy (never liked them)


nileppez wrote:
Graveland > Bathory (pagan era). Prawo Stali > Hammerheart, both are in my favourite 10 albums of all time though.


You guys are so funny Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beherit>Sarcofago/Blasphemy
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Murder Squad > Autopsy (never liked them)


Anyway to close this thread?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The year that Transilvanian Hunger was released also saw De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas, Emperor released In The Nightside Eclipse, Burzum Hvis Lyset Tar Oss, Enslaved Frost and so on.

A magickal year for BM and some monumentous albums released - timeless still.

Transilvanian Hunger will always be one. It, like other Darkthrone records set a blueprint for the 90's BM sound. To suggest these were trumped by clones is idiotic at best.

The greatest irony of it all being that for Blaze and UFM, these were pure tribute releases themselves.
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