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The general hardcore punk appreciation thread
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obscureinfinity



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:26 pm    Post subject: The general hardcore punk appreciation thread Reply with quote

Since there's a Japanese hardcore punk appreciation thread, I figured it would be ok to make this one. I'd like to limit the discussion to hardcore so try to avoid talking about grind, crust, and powerviolence here.

I'm sure there are posters here who dislike punk in general but hardcore's influence on the development of metal is undeniable. I'm personally of the opinion that metal would never have progressed past the intensity of Judas Priest if it weren't for the influence of the fast youthful energy of the 80s hardcore punk scene. Many hardcore acts also arguably gave birth to the gruff vocal style that became commonplace in extreme metal.

Some of my favorite bands:

Negative Approach
Black Flag
YDI
DYS
Negative FX
Slapshot
G.I.S.M.
The Comes
Void
The Abused
United Mutation
SS Decontrol
Youth Brigade (DC band)
Cheetah Chrome Motherfuckers
Mecht Mensch
Chicken Bowels
Shitlickers
Discharge
The Stalin
Zouo
Confuse
The Germs
D.O.A.
S.O.A.
Disaster
Final Count
Jerry's Kids
Mob 47

There has also been some great stuff coming out of Canada over the past couple of years that I'd recommend. Urban Blight, Bad Choice, Kremlin, Violent Future, and S.H.I.T. are some great bands to check out for anyone interested.

Discuss.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apart from the already mentioned:

Poison Idea
Blood For Blood
Integrity
Catharsis
GBH
English Dogs
AMD
and the NYHC scene with:
Agnostic Front
Madball
Killing Time
Warzone
Cro-Mags
25 Ta LIfe
and mighty Sheer Terror etc
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEGAZIONE
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Attitude Adjustment (old lineup)
Attitude
Condemned Attitude
Minor Threat
Corrupted Morals
Excel - demos/first LP
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Discharge and The Exploited pretty obviously...

Also:

Riistetyt
Rattus
Terveet Kädet
Black Flag
Disclose
Doom
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I listen to DRI the most
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not into tough guy beatdown hardcore and that seems to be the majority of NYHC. If you ask me, hardcore is supposed to be made by a bunch of pissed off nerdy rejects. Not jocks.

I like Adrenalin O.D., Reagan Youth, Urban Waste, and Agnostic Front's first album but that's about it in terms of NYHC. The Cro-Mags are alright from what I remember. Haven't heard them in years.

Edit: Oh, and the Beastie Boys first EP rules. Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Dehumanizers. The Kill Lou Guzzo EP is among my top 10 American hardcore albums. Brilliant stuff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7NJsW74zSE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8L8VtYVI2FE
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

obscureinfinity wrote:
I'm not into tough guy beatdown hardcore and that seems to be the majority of NYHC. If you ask me, hardcore is supposed to be made by a bunch of pissed off nerdy rejects. Not jocks.

I like Adrenalin O.D., Reagan Youth, Urban Waste, and Agnostic Front's first album but that's about it in terms of NYHC. The Cro-Mags are alright from what I remember. Haven't heard them in years.

Edit: Oh, and the Beastie Boys first EP rules. Wink


How about Sheer Terror? Just can't hate enough with the Celtic Frostish guitar sound is the best NYHC record ever!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't care too much for stuff like Jerry's Kids or Negative Approach, its boring music and it just goes in one ear and out the other like the talentless crap it is. Some of those Youth crew groups though are great because they actually included faster riffs with the group vocals and metallic elements, stuff like Chain of Strength, Bold, Floorpunch, and Youth of today I love. Of course the obvious mentions of Black flag and Agent Orange apply, but my main love is the heavier stuff like Merauder, 25 Ta life, Ringworm, Integrity, Madball, and Billy club sandwich that gets my adrenaline going. Hardcore is my second favorite style of music, its just a matter of finding out which early 80's bands are worth more anything.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not really a fan. I prefer hardcore to have a raw lo-fi punk sound. Sheer Terror is too metallic.

Haven't heard The Dehumanizers until now. Not bad but different from what I usually listen to.

Stuff I've been jamming lately:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3UzUrQltv8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSt_Vyz-LPM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbLzAySnZOQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NLl4LHlCkw
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zone wrote:
I don't care too much for stuff like Jerry's Kids or Negative Approach, its boring music and it just goes in one ear and out the other like the talentless crap it is. Some of those Youth crew groups though are great because they actually included faster riffs with the group vocals and metallic elements, stuff like Chain of Strength, Bold, Floorpunch, and Youth of today I love. Of course the obvious mentions of Black flag and Agent Orange apply, but my main love is the heavier stuff like Merauder, 25 Ta life, Ringworm, Integrity, Madball, and Billy club sandwich that gets my adrenaline going. Hardcore is my second favorite style of music, its just a matter of finding out which early 80's bands are worth more anything.


We're on opposite wavelengths. A lot of those bands just sound like punkier metalcore to me.

All punk is talentless. That's part of the appeal. Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find it amazing a man can listen to Bold and not Negative Approach!

Love a lot of hardcore of all eras and a lot of my friends are involved in it one way or another- but it works far better for me in the live environment than it does on record. I rarely listen to hardcore nowadays other than at shows and I'm slowly getting rid of the collection...
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can at least understand where you're coming from there. Hardcore generally isn't as timeless or profound as the most classic of metal albums (hence why I prefer metal at the end of the day) but I definitely like it enough to keep buying albums and demo tapes. It's a simple, maybe even mindless, and to-the-point outburst of aggression and that's why I like it. Live or otherwise.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man, I can't believe I didn't mention Nerorgasmo. Their 1985 EP is just perfect.

Check it out here:
http://www.goodbadmusic.com/2008/10/19/nerorgasmo-st-7ep-babby-records-italy-1985/
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