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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Satyricon - Nemesis Divina
- Re-worked lyrics by Midnight Oil!?!

Morgoth - Feel Sorry for the Fanatic
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good call on the Morgoth.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cochino wrote:
I really like Club Mondo Bizarre though. And I doubt they were trying to "sell out" with lyrics like Hydrocephalus or Fuck Bizarre. It's certainly not as good as the previous LP's and you could even say it's not Death Metal anymore, but I think it's got a bunch of good songs and is certainly better than any of their comeback albums.

CMB is actually my fave Pungent Stench lp and I agree that calling it a sell-out is unfair. It does sound extremely different from the early records though, in that sense it's not too wrong to say it's PS's black album.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Morgoth - Feel Sorry for the Fanatic

This album is actually pretty good for what it is...Killing Joke worship.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Besides, Morgoth had already wimped out with Odium.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

when it came out, I was balls-deep into Samael's Passage.






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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Metal Detektor wrote:
harmless wrote:
Morgoth - Feel Sorry for the Fanatic

This album is actually pretty good for what it is...Killing Joke worship.


NK7 wrote:
Besides, Morgoth had already wimped out with Odium.


As true as that might be the change of style was as dramatic as Pyogenesis'. The "Death Metal is dead, we need to broaden our horizon" craze was in full bloom back then.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

harmless wrote:
[...] The "Death Metal is dead, we need to broaden our horizon" craze was in full bloom back then.


Spot on, its hard to come up with a band which did not try to hop on the next big thing, especially almost all of the more established bands in Germany and in general (the whole Century Media roster basically).

In my opinion Samael´s "Passage" and Morgoth´s "Odium" were and still are good records. Especially "Odium" is one the very very few albums from that time that moved away from the classic Death Metal sound while still retaining a unique and not some watered down trendy approach.

While "Feel Sorry..." is some kind of KJ worship I still think it sucks ass.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heirophant.326.AV wrote:
when it came out, I was balls-deep into Samael's Passage.


I didn't mind what Samael was doing up until "Eternal". After that they ran out of ideas. Sometimes I wonder what the band would come up with if they remained a BM act.


And if we're mentioning bands other than Thrash then there's plenty to choose from.

Paradise Lost with "One Second", Tiamat "Wildhoney" maybe wasn't so commercial but heading into that direction. "A Deeper Kind of Slumber" is what made me lose interest in the band. Maybe some of you will remember this video clip they made: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAdyArZM1B8
I'm sure if it was Smashing Pumpkins then it would be a big hit on MTV.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kapalika wrote:


In my opinion Samael´s "Passage" and Morgoth´s "Odium" were and still are good records. Especially "Odium" is one the very very few albums from that time that moved away from the classic Death Metal sound while still retaining a unique and not some watered down trendy approach.

Again, I didn't say it's a shitty album, I actually like it a lot. It certainly fits the concept of wimping out though, as it obviously represents a huge change from the style of the earlier recordings. Same goes for Passage, which still remains a decent record with at least 2-3 really outstanding songs.
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