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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 9:06 pm    Post subject: Warning - Watching from a Distance LP at HHR Reply with quote

Not sure if this has been posted as I couldn't find it, but HHR has some in stock from Kreation. I snagged one this afternoon; I'm pretty sure it's a limited press since Walker bitched and moaned about it.

http://www.shop-hellsheadbangers.com/item.asp?cID=0&PID=27931
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, it's a limited bootleg allright
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's booted? I wasn't aware. I thought the other band members were in on it, but left Walker out.

*EDIT. Ah, never mind. I found this.

http://www.heavyblogisheavy.com/2012/11/16/kreation-records-re-issuing-warnings-watching-from-a-distance-without-band-involvement/
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But isn't Kreation known for making shitty reissues (like the Godflesh ones)?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wasn't aware of it. I'll keep this one, listen to it, sell it to a KVLT kid eventually and await the proper reissue.

This was in the comment section:

If you'd bothered to look into the story even a little bit, you'd have gleaned that the reason Kreation didn't contact Warning was because it was assumed that with the thousands of dollars they spent licensing it, completely legally, from The Miskatonic Foundation included the original label informing the band.

They were also advised to make changes to differentiate it from the original. They may not have been great changes, but they were following direction.

People don't rip off doom bands to make money - it's hardly a route to unbridled financial success. Kreation genuinely express love for this record, and bad-mouthing them with 0% research is bad form.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well if the label owns the rights and licenses it to someone that isn't a boot. Sounds like the band is upset they weren't included on the presentation. So a non band approved release but not a boot.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right on. I'll check it out and see if it's worth keeping, sound-wise.

And I got my Sorcery CD today; thanks Matt. \m/
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has Kreation EVER asked a band's input on a release? Everyone I know who has ever been in a band that had anything released by them has nothing but bad things to say.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 1:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd love to have this release on vinyl but there is no way I'm buying this.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I could probably be tempted with my first press. It's nowhere near as good as I remembered it being!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Devoured Death wrote:
I could probably be tempted with my first press. It's nowhere near as good as I remembered it being!


It is.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

darkdescentrecords wrote:
Well if the label owns the rights and licenses it to someone that isn't a boot. Sounds like the band is upset they weren't included on the presentation. So a non band approved release but not a boot.


I don't know but to me this means it's a boot. I realize label politics are a sensitive subject, and there is lots of seedy/loopy stuff that goes on with people selling rights they don't own, etc. However, ultimately it's the band that has the final say in my view. There are obviously certain exceptions, however since Walker is planning on doing a proper reissue of this via Cyclone Empire, I consider it a boot. It's more or less like the unofficial Armagedda LP reissues that were done a while back. Similar situation, and similarly I consider them boots.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can liken this to the Bolt Thrower- Realm of Chaos reissue. You certainly wouldn't call that a boot even though the band hates the reissue. Earache owns the album officially. I think you are blurring lines a little. Licensed property is official but as I said it may not have been with the wishes of the band. Two different topics really.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

darkdescentrecords wrote:
You can liken this to the Bolt Thrower- Realm of Chaos reissue. You certainly wouldn't call that a boot even though the band hates the reissue. Earache owns the album officially. I think you are blurring lines a little. Licensed property is official but as I said it may not have been with the wishes of the band. Two different topics really.


I see your point, but I guess my point is that generally if the band is involved with/approves the release, the quality is almost always better. So boot or not, I think of it in terms of release quality, and obviously no one wants a shitty version of a reissued classic.
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Devoured Death wrote:
I could probably be tempted with my first press. It's nowhere near as good as I remembered it being!

Well, my birthday is in July...
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