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Paul Ledney is now a hated man at SOTNCF
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Demoniarch



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thought I was on the FMP board during the reading of this thread. Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Australians have brain.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

THIS is black metal. No THAT is black metal.
I didn't know black metal was some kind of dogma where you are supposed to have the same ideology, support the same cause and dress all the same. Reminds me of the non-conformist goths from South park: to be a non-conformist you have to dress and act just like us.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Humus wrote:
THIS is black metal. No THAT is black metal.
I didn't know black metal was some kind of dogma where you are supposed to have the same ideology, support the same cause and dress all the same. Reminds me of the non-conformist goths from South park: to be a non-conformist you have to dress and act just like us.


in order to BE a subculture it must have some limits regarding cause. like how WITTR say shit like 'you cant be black metal if you dont know what wildflowers are in bloom, etc', its complete bullshit and 'not black metal' to think like that.

a band of any genre who is making music just to get laid, look cool whatever... they are trendies, faggots, idiots, etc.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like all early Profanatica and all Havohej up to Dethrone the son of God. All post 2000 stuff is weak.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Goat.Pestilence wrote:
Humus wrote:
THIS is black metal. No THAT is black metal.
I didn't know black metal was some kind of dogma where you are supposed to have the same ideology, support the same cause and dress all the same. Reminds me of the non-conformist goths from South park: to be a non-conformist you have to dress and act just like us.


in order to BE a subculture it must have some limits regarding cause. like how WITTR say shit like 'you cant be black metal if you dont know what wildflowers are in bloom, etc', its complete bullshit and 'not black metal' to think like that.

a band of any genre who is making music just to get laid, look cool whatever... they are trendies, faggots, idiots, etc.


Is that an actual quote from WITTR? That would be fucking hilarious.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, this is the most retarded thread I've EVER seen on this forum!
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Goat.Pestilence



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NWN PROD wrote:
I like all early Profanatica and all Havohej up to Dethrone the son of God. All post 2000 stuff is weak.


same for me, cept that i thought Broken Jew EP was pretty good


@GoldenBull: they said something extremely close to that, as in that is not a direct quote but that is the exact message they have given before... they have said other crap like that and also believe that radical ecology/leftism and black metal are inseparable. i dont like to shit-talk bands, but i really think WitTR are musically recycling whats come before them and as far as their ideas go, they are trying to be trend setters
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't really decide if I hate or like the Profanatica LP
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CR99 wrote:
I can't really decide if I hate or like the Profanatica LP


I hate it. It's that fucking drum machine, man....
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought it was an electronic drum kit ?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

People who equate music's aesthetic extensively on the same level with
with philosophy and ideology only deseve to be fucked in the brain and
left disappointed with their weeping.

No matter how much there would be of true devotion, passion and
honesty towards certain ideologies within music, it should be clear
to any (especially Satanist) person that it's only an aesthetic
presentation of a subjective view of an idea.

Personally I see nothing admirable in a person who needs to reflect
on other people and their actions for his own relationship with
and ideology, especially when it comes to just some music scene.

As for the topic itself... Ledney has always been a degenerate of
several sorts, things like this should not be a surprise to anyone.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

brown growth wrote:
CR99 wrote:
I can't really decide if I hate or like the Profanatica LP


I hate it. It's that fucking drum machine, man....


Theres a lot of cult albums that have not real drums.
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Sacrilegio



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Werwolf wrote:
People who equate music's aesthetic extensively on the same level with
with philosophy and ideology only deseve to be fucked in the brain and
left disappointed with their weeping.

No matter how much there would be of true devotion, passion and
honesty towards certain ideologies within music, it should be clear
to any (especially Satanist) person that it's only an aesthetic
presentation of a subjective view of an idea.

Personally I see nothing admirable in a person who needs to reflect
on other people and their actions for his own relationship with
and ideology, especially when it comes to just some music scene.

As for the topic itself... Ledney has always been a degenerate of
several sorts, things like this should not be a surprise to anyone.


You make a good point.....
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