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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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tormentedFist wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=271150063072&item=271150063072&lgeo=0&vectorid=238401

Wonder how much it will end up at.


Hope I'll be able to catch a 'regular' version as I attended that gig!

I was there also!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

puist wrote:
Humus wrote:
tormentedFist wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=271150063072&item=271150063072&lgeo=0&vectorid=238401

Wonder how much it will end up at.


Hope I'll be able to catch a 'regular' version as I attended that gig!

I was there also!


i really like your nickname....
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

me too, but thats the gayest thing ever! it is not even out yet and the label (considering its a staff copy) already sells it on ebay???
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

flo/thrash attack zine wrote:
me too, but thats the gayest thing ever! it is not even out yet and the label (considering its a staff copy) already sells it on ebay???

i find it disgusting the guy even takes pics on his work table where he cuts the other "staff" versions....
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ravn wrote:
flo/thrash attack zine wrote:
me too, but thats the gayest thing ever! it is not even out yet and the label (considering its a staff copy) already sells it on ebay???

i find it disgusting the guy even takes pics on his work table where he cuts the other "staff" versions....


Perhaps that's part of his/her salary? Not defending anyone here but even Relapse clear vinyl that is not for sale to the public might actually be a form of payment to their employees. "Here's 5 copies sell it on eBay and make some quick cash".
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DSS wrote:
ravn wrote:
flo/thrash attack zine wrote:
me too, but thats the gayest thing ever! it is not even out yet and the label (considering its a staff copy) already sells it on ebay???

i find it disgusting the guy even takes pics on his work table where he cuts the other "staff" versions....


Perhaps that's part of his/her salary? Not defending anyone here but even Relapse clear vinyl that is not for sale to the public might actually be a form of payment to their employees. "Here's 5 copies sell it on eBay and make some quick cash".

maybe..but you could take the pics of the record on an normal background..and not with the other parts of the staff version on the back...
but thats my opinion....
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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background..and not with the other parts of the staff version on the back...
but thats my opinion....


This might have been done on purpose to show that it is a legitimate copy that's up for bids. Just a wild guess.
And lets be honest, majority of the labels make releases for eBay sales. Perhaps not directly selling on eBay but with all these different limitations the label owners must know that it will sell fast and then end up on eBay.

Where would a label like Rise Above be without eBay?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Black Magick SS sold for $25...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/281059046115?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649


Oh the irony.

Does anyone fancy selling me a copy? I really liked the sample track but there's no way I am waiting till it goes at this price again.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rósachd wrote:
evildead wrote:
Black Magick SS sold for $25...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/281059046115?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649


Oh the irony.

Does anyone fancy selling me a copy? I really liked the sample track but there's no way I am waiting till it goes at this price again.


The tape will be re-released as a 7" by DTB
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, looking forward to that at least.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ravn wrote:
DSS wrote:
ravn wrote:
flo/thrash attack zine wrote:
me too, but thats the gayest thing ever! it is not even out yet and the label (considering its a staff copy) already sells it on ebay???

i find it disgusting the guy even takes pics on his work table where he cuts the other "staff" versions....


Perhaps that's part of his/her salary? Not defending anyone here but even Relapse clear vinyl that is not for sale to the public might actually be a form of payment to their employees. "Here's 5 copies sell it on eBay and make some quick cash".

maybe..but you could take the pics of the record on an normal background..and not with the other parts of the staff version on the back...
but thats my opinion....


You both miss a bit of context. HMSS is a one-man operation and all records are hand-assembled in the small appartment of the label-owner. These die-hard versions are unlike what people normally understand under die-hard versions. All respect to labels like NWN or The crypt, but what they do is deliver the files to the pressing/printing plant and receive the finished goods. But imagine a label like HMSS hand-assembling every record. That's a different form of dedication.
So rest assured, even if there is some small profit due to selling on ebay, when you calculate the 'wage per hour' he's be better off selling newspapers on the street corner.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the recent bootleg...don't let the green insert fool you:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380570484943
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really couldn't care less if the dude is a millionaire or almost a starving homeless. If he can sell a copy of the 9379450s Sabbat live recording for that much - good for him. It belongs to him and NOBODY has the right to tell him what to do with it. Really, he may make a living from flipping records alone, for all I care. BUT...

Humus wrote:
But imagine a label like HMSS hand-assembling every record. That's a different form of dedication.
Lolwut? Is "messing around with scissors and glue" what you call "dedication"? I would agree about it if some 80's fanzine was discussed, but when it comes to such a technologically advanced country as Japan, especially in 2013 - that's nothing but a gimmick.

"Sending files", releasing albums (and making bigger print runs, obviously) and spending that amount of time on distribution and promotion would be an actual contribution for the music world (=dedication, by the way!), a much bigger one than that of a small bunch of "never to be listened to" rehearsal/live recording collectibles.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Werewolf wrote:
I really couldn't care less if the dude is a millionaire or almost a starving homeless. If he can sell a copy of the 9379450s Sabbat live recording for that much - good for him. It belongs to him and NOBODY has the right to tell him what to do with it. Really, he may make a living from flipping records alone, for all I care.


Precisely. I'm not sure why so many people have a sense of entitlement to other people's property.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OF COURSE he can do it and apparently there are enough idiots that want a useless recording for 200$+. I dont buy it or any other of those releases as to me the music is more important than the limitation or packaging.
Its still totally lame and also that a band is fine with such a policy sucks in my book.
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