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Good Christian Death metal bands?
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jameswolfe



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok guys serious question Ive wandered for years:


Is Christian Death a christian band?


Or is it like they want christians dead?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jameswolfe wrote:
ok guys serious question Ive wandered for years:


Is Christian Death a christian band?


Or is it like they want christians dead?


You reminded me of something I also wondered about, but always forget to ask others.

wikipedia is your friend

...it lead to finding this
http://www.allmusic.com/artist/christian-death-mn0000120060
"The founding fathers of American goth rock, Christian Death took a relentlessly confrontational stand against organized religion and conventional morality, with an appetite for provocation that made Marilyn Manson look like Stryper. Regardless of who was leading or performing in the group, Christian Death set themselves up to shock, both in their cover art and their lyrics, which wallowed in blasphemy, morbidity, drug use, and sexual perversity."
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Primitive wrote:
NK7 wrote:
Seriously, I can't believe we still have the "CHRISTIANITY YES/NO" discussion in 2013. Kids deal with it, religions will still be there the day you and your collection of bedroom bm mp3's are history. Also an average muslim/christian fundamentalist is a much more serious threat to society than the large majority of metalheads combined, so yeah Incubus > Mutiilation.



You're a fucking joke.

And if a band sings about it and makes it their theme that's different, actually even if the band members have the beliefs durring the recordings, fuck it. I was dissapointed to find out holocaust and running wild vocalist later became christians so I wouldn't wanna hear shit they've put out now. Fuck that shit my hatred for christinsanity goes beyond any metal bands lyrics. It's a war, a war that would be there wether bands sung about it or not. Fuck your christian sympathy I'm a militant totalitarian when it comes to that SHIT. I don't care how "good" the music sounds, fuck you! It's people like you who would have converted because "now they celebrate pagan holidays to!", Give you a fucking snickers bar and they'd probably get your attention. The music I listen to means more to me then just people pounding on drums and playing guitar riffs. Fuck any weak sheep fucks who think "music is just music".

And the nsbm argument? I don't even think that's an argument cause all nsbm sucks shit anyways, I wouldn't wanna hear that shit even if I WAS wp in the first place! So that's invalid to me.

Well put, other than the NSBM bollocks at the end.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CHRISTIAN DEATH = not a Christian band...or a Metal band.



Seriously though, do Christian Metal bands who are like ZERO TOLERANCE for Satanists exist???

If I were to do a Christian Death Metal/Extreme Metal type band - I would want it to be as over the top PRO GOD as possible.
I think that would be really interesting.

Lyrics about the Crusades, lyrics that are anti every other religion that isn't Christianity, HARD AND BRUTAL music.
Lyrics about "not suffering a witch to live....".
Lyrics about fucking up devil worshipers etc.

So - please tell me if there are bands like this????
It would suck though if there were bands like this and the music and vocals suck...that would be a bummer.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually thought most people would do some kind of mental screening when they listen to metal lyrics since a lot of bands lyrics are either blatantly dick-riding Satan for the 10000th time, using cheesy fantasy or left wing/humanism. Only a few bands get it right. I see no problem doing exactly the same with a Mortification or Incubus album. But to take extra offense at just biblical lyrics when others are equally bad is kinda ridiculous. I don't see why having or listening to something like this means you have to agree with the fucking lyrics or what the band does on a Sunday. I still listen to Kreator even though I don't like the lyrics.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saltrubbed Eyes wrote:
I actually thought most people would do some kind of mental screening when they listen to metal lyrics since a lot of bands lyrics are either blatantly dick-riding Satan for the 10000th time, using cheesy fantasy or left wing/humanism. Only a few bands get it right. I see no problem doing exactly the same with a Mortification or Incubus album. But to take extra offense at just biblical lyrics when others are equally bad is kinda ridiculous. I don't see why having or listening to something like this means you have to agree with the fucking lyrics or what the band does on a Sunday. I still listen to Kreator even though I don't like the lyrics.


+1 Totally agree. Most of them doesnt read the lyrics, so...!
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jameswolfe wrote:
ok guys serious question Ive wandered for years:


Is Christian Death a christian band?


Or is it like they want christians dead?


From what I read... Christian Death was a pun on Christian Dior. The Fragrance and fashion designer. Not Christian at all. Californian Gothic Punk.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NK7 wrote:
Seriously, I can't believe we still have the "CHRISTIANITY YES/NO" discussion in 2013. Kids deal with it, religions will still be there the day you and your collection of bedroom bm mp3's are history. Also an average muslim/christian fundamentalist is a much more serious threat to society than the large majority of metalheads combined, so yeah Incubus > Mutiilation.


This must be a dream thread for you Ngay7! Did you ever think you'd one morning open your browser to NWN forum and see a thread about christian death metal, you must of went from six to midnight in a heart beat, and refreshed the page at least 30 times to make sure you were not dreaming?
But thank you for proving me right Marcos/NK7! "hey guys, white light religion is more extreme, join me and jesus, then we can listen to some mortification in heaven and bang on! Jesus had long hair and was the first metal head, didnt yall know?". Fuck off. You are such a retarded sheep with no worth in life (i guess religion is how you can justify having such a rubbish worthless existence because you think you'll be ok in heaven). Just another christian dog recruiting tool.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

da666 wrote:
This must be a dream thread for you Ngay7! Did you ever think you'd one morning open your browser to NWN forum and see a thread about christian death metal, you must of went from six to midnight in a heart beat, and refreshed the page at least 30 times to make sure you were not dreaming?
But thank you for proving me right Marcos/NK7! "hey guys, white light religion is more extreme, join me and jesus, then we can listen to some mortification in heaven and bang on! Jesus had long hair and was the first metal head, didnt yall know?". Fuck off. You are such a retarded sheep with no worth in life (i guess religion is how you can justify having such a rubbish worthless existence because you think you'll be ok in heaven). Just another christian dog recruiting tool.

And still Mortification > DTL
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As my NSBM-comparison didn't seem to work:

Do you guys listen to Napalm Death? Does leftist-socialism fit with Grindcore more than Christianity with Death Metal? Are you against multinational corporations while listening to "Scum"?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 3:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not exactly death metal but I remember years ago there was a christian grindcore band from Australia, Vomitorial Corpulence. They had song titles like Christ is the demon crusher. At first sight I thought they were joking but they were 100% true on their beliefs. Don't remember how they played though.. Maybe it was pretty decent
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ADK wrote:
As my NSBM-comparison didn't seem to work:

Do you guys listen to Napalm Death? Does leftist-socialism fit with Grindcore more than Christianity with Death Metal? Are you against multinational corporations while listening to "Scum"?


Napalm Death emerged from UK anarcho punk; of course it 'fits'.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All I want to say is that you can mix almost every ideology with metal.

But Christian metal-bands were and will always be a minority one can easily ignore.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NK7 wrote:
da666 wrote:
This must be a dream thread for you Ngay7! Did you ever think you'd one morning open your browser to NWN forum and see a thread about christian death metal, you must of went from six to midnight in a heart beat, and refreshed the page at least 30 times to make sure you were not dreaming?
But thank you for proving me right Marcos/NK7! "hey guys, white light religion is more extreme, join me and jesus, then we can listen to some mortification in heaven and bang on! Jesus had long hair and was the first metal head, didnt yall know?". Fuck off. You are such a retarded sheep with no worth in life (i guess religion is how you can justify having such a rubbish worthless existence because you think you'll be ok in heaven). Just another christian dog recruiting tool.

And still Mortification > DTL


A 40 year old christian preferring Mortification over DTL Shocked Laughing you still don't get your opinion is nil and void to most people because your a priests pole puppet.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not "my opinion" dude. It's the reality of things, '90ies death metal will always sound better than generic norsecore, especially when the latter is being played by chubby OCD delusional turds.
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